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Server population is getting ridicolous down by 70%

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Server population is getting ridicolous down by 70%

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lucasomega
01.21.2012 , 06:51 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Miffen View Post
Some statistics that i gathered now for my server on the republic side:

Republic fleet
Now: 21 players
A week ago: 97

Total level 50 players:
Now: 43 players
A week ago: 238
They rolled alts and aren't hanging out in Fleet 24/7?
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WarTornPanda
01.21.2012 , 06:59 AM | #92
Lots of people are in denial in this thread. If you can't see the drastic decrease in server populations you are seriously lying to yourself.
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lucasomega
01.21.2012 , 07:00 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Renzetsu View Post
daym im dumb can you explain the graphs to me!
Sure thing buddy!

"How is the data gathered?
The tool automatically queries swtor.com's server-status page every 5 minutes and commits the samples to it's database.

Can I make guesses on overall subscription count based on these graphs?
No you shouldn't be relying on them to make so guesses. These graph purely relies on instantaneous server population values provided by Bioware, nothing more.

We can make this assumptions on averages;
0 -> offline
1 - 2 -> light
2 - 3-> standard
3 - 4 -> heavy
4 - 5 -> very heavy
5+ -> full"

Offline servers are counted towards server population trends.

The fact that people constantly attempt to cite this as a source of accurate definitive population statistics is hilarious. The site doesn't collect that data. It's all conjecture on possible population based on a scale that doesn't even know server population caps (or the levels at which server population is tiered).

The lack of proper spelling and grammar on the site is also amusing to me.
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Bopper
01.21.2012 , 07:01 AM | #94
How can people use the population on fleet as any kind of population census? maybe people are doing more things in different places. It is unlike WOW i think with people just hanging, around the city to show off their mount. Get bored of lvling do instances, get bored of instances do pvp, get bored of that do space missions, get bored of that then craft.

I like to chill in my spaceship during down times, does your numbers include this?

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ChipHazard
01.21.2012 , 07:05 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by WarTornPanda View Post
Lots of people are in denial in this thread. If you can't see the drastic decrease in server populations you are seriously lying to yourself.
There being a decrease and it actually being a sign of grim tides to come is not the same thing. As long as people are paying a monthly sub it doesn't matter if they aren't able to be online for most of the day. Also a lot players always leave after the free game time i.e. drifters looking for the sacred land.
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Kurugi
01.21.2012 , 07:05 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by wixxkruppel View Post
Already did.

It's actually your problem, not mine.
I like you state you're no longer subscribed to the game and don't plan to play it anymore but continue to complain.

I understand voicing your concerns/disappointments in hopes that it can better the game in the future. What I don't understand is continuing to state these disappointments over and over and over again in multiple posts.

We get it. You think the game is terrible, but what could you possibly achieve by repeating your complaints and arguing with people over it? Are you trying to bring more people down with you? Are you so disappointed that you aren't satisfied until everyone agrees with you and stops playing too? Are you just trying to piss people off?

I just don't see the point in repeating the same crap over and over throughout the thread. If you're done with the game like you've said, you've said your piece already so just be done with it and move on.

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WarTornPanda
01.21.2012 , 07:06 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Bopper View Post
How can people use the population on fleet as any kind of population census? maybe people are doing more things in different places. It is unlike WOW i think with people just hanging, around the city to show off their mount. Get bored of lvling do instances, get bored of instances do pvp, get bored of that do space missions, get bored of that then craft.

I like to chill in my spaceship during down times, does your numbers include this?
Does it have to? The population decrease on the fleet ships will directly correlate and proportionally represent the server population decrease as a whole. If you can't see why this is true, then there is really no need to contribute to this conversation. It's common sense.
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Bopper
01.21.2012 , 07:06 AM | #98
edited account it reposted for some reason

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lucasomega
01.21.2012 , 07:08 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by WarTornPanda View Post
Lots of people are in denial in this thread. If you can't see the drastic decrease in server populations you are seriously lying to yourself.
Lots of people also cite improper sources on the matter. For example, swtorarena's statistics are vastly misunderstood because of those who don't bother reading the FAQ attached explaining the data.

Here:
"Some have cited server usage statistics compiled by third parties as indicating less user interest in playing the game. But Ben Schachter of Macquarie wrote Friday that “without knowledge of how EA is allocating its server capacity, it is difficult to make accurate estimates of the number of users based on third-party analysis of server loads.”"

From http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell...wars%E2%80%99/

If EA/BioWare releases actual population data that says the servers are dying, I'll agree. But until then, I refuse to be swayed by a graph to which the creator even states should not be used to form conclusions of overall population. It's server trends and conjecture at that. There's a huge difference, not to mention the data collection technique is poor.
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Kurugi
01.21.2012 , 07:08 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by WarTornPanda View Post
Lots of people are in denial in this thread. If you can't see the drastic decrease in server populations you are seriously lying to yourself.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the game just hitting the 1 month mark and the people who've been playing since launch who's billing cycle came around not wanting to stick around and pay for another month.

Every MMO has a significant drop in subs after the first month, because all the people just trying out the game and decided it's not to their tastes leave.