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Bag RNG System: Aging Poorly


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Xavmobile
01.20.2012 , 09:31 PM | #241
I just feel like bumping this thread 2-3 times every hour.

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AstralWanderer
01.20.2012 , 09:36 PM | #242
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JackKerras
01.20.2012 , 09:39 PM | #243
Quote: Originally Posted by Xavmobile View Post
I just feel like bumping this thread 2-3 times every hour.
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JackKerras
01.20.2012 , 09:39 PM | #244
Quote: Originally Posted by Pacolypse View Post
But we have gear we can mod. There is no reason to have pvp gear other than what you mentioned. ...and that seems to be creating a huge issue. Oh look, a shiny....
Have you ever heard of throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

'Cuz that's what you're suggesting.

There is a CAUTIONARY ADAGE. It is clearly not the best course. XD

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JackKerras
01.20.2012 , 09:42 PM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
I just bumped an old thread on this but this one seems to be getting a lot more attention. I'm at 55 right now with 3 pieces (relic, implant, boots), yet i see other people in the 30s with a full set. Actually, you could get valor 100 (does it go that high?) with not a single piece of battlemaster gear. You get to wear leveling gear at 100 minus the champion gear you buy with scraps.
Yeah, I think this is the thread to be in for that. It's got the most votes and views and it's been around a good bit now. I'm hoping someone will actually notice it and realize that a cheap, easy, not completely band-aid-y fix for the loot issue (which would give the devs -more control- over the rate of gearing at endgame!) is interesting enough to consider.

Also, me. For a job. I wanna work for these guys super bad. I don't even need a lot of pay. And I'm willing to move! XD

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Xenoclix
01.20.2012 , 10:20 PM | #246
Dont reply much, if at all on the forums - but to bump this idea is a reply i wll be doing from now on.
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TaeAichi
01.20.2012 , 10:27 PM | #247
Yeah i'd liek to see the champ gear schematics be made Universal. I've Got the chest, gauntlets, pants, off hand, and two implants for my main. a chest pants and gauntlets for scourge and extra pants. My ratio has been recent...But that's why they need to be universal....no effing repeats.

as an aside..I like the Golden samurai look.

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JPureBalance
01.20.2012 , 10:55 PM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by JackKerras View Post
See, this is my problem.

You should not need a rabbit's foot for this stuff. People keep playing CoD for years on end because no matter what, that bar is always climbing.

Opening twenty bags for no gear isn't progression. Each bag does not give you a higher and higher chance to get more gear from subsequent bags; they have no effect on the overall drop rate of their fellow bags, so no matter how many you open, you may very well be either equally lucky or equally screwed.

There's no effect. There's no way to say, yes, I am getting closer every day. Yes, each game I play gets me that much nearer to my crazy crazy lightsaber. There's no way. The current system destroys the sense of momentum needed to create insanely hooked-in players like Modern Warfare 2 or even Battlefield have. In our game you can't even swap weapons and start getting new commendations just to shake things up, or swap to your Revolver and go around trying for wheelgun headshots to keep yourself amused.

There's nothing to break the monotony, and without a goal marching steadily closer, you get despair. With despair, you get people going to play other games, lost subs, and sour feelings throughout the community... like my roomie, who likes TOR but is mega pissed that he has five pairs of identical pants. It's going to drive him to quit; I know him well, and I can hear his 'I'm unsubbing' discussion coming down the road. It'll be a few months yet, but this issue -will- drive him to another game.

Or else Diablo will come out and he just won't care about anything but that anymore.

You see the issue here, though? Relying on RNG to grant gear is the worst possible way to do it. You -really- have to let people -progress- instead of just occasionally getting an upgrade.
20 bags is a little over 1 week worth of dailies pretty much. You shouldn't be getting 5 pieces in a week. Some people have and that is what's bad. The rate should be something around 1 item per 20 bags and if they move away from the bag system that is exactly what it will be: 2 items every 3 weeks or so.

Nowhere did I say the bag system was good, but my argument with all the people jumping in this thread saying "Bag 20 with no loot" is that you aren't really entitled to 1-2 battlemaster pieces a week just because you said so.

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aTecko
01.20.2012 , 11:06 PM | #249
10 champion bags and I have not single champion gear. This is really the worst "how to farm" gear system. Now what to do ... wait 30 minutes for warzone, get 80x wz commendations do this 10times ... buy bag with less then 10% drop chance, hope for loot ... nothing and again. So for one bag I will spend only 5 hours in waiting for warzone and then hope for something in bag. Seriously, there is needed any change in this system.

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Nophreedom
01.20.2012 , 11:08 PM | #250
Bumpity bump bump