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Bag RNG System: Aging Poorly


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Tohrazer
01.20.2012 , 08:18 PM | #231
almost battlemaster now, also cleared all normal raid content and almost cleared all hard raid content

i have the centurion mainhand, a fresh 50 in my guild has the shiny champion one

i've poured so many more hours into this game than him :/

/unfair
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JackKerras
01.20.2012 , 08:35 PM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by Tohrazer View Post
almost battlemaster now, also cleared all normal raid content and almost cleared all hard raid content

i have the centurion mainhand, a fresh 50 in my guild has the shiny champion one

i've poured so many more hours into this game than him :/

/unfair
This is my main issue, right here.

Forget the social engineering part, I want people to feel like they've made real progress in a game that rewards players even-handedly for their efforts.

This random guildie is stacked while other guildie has only one piece ******** has got to stop, and not later.

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TheRealBrave
01.20.2012 , 08:40 PM | #233
I have a guild mate that is four Valor ranks below me and has champion in all but two slots. I have 3 pieces of champion gear. Sweet game Bioturd.

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Emmerick
01.20.2012 , 08:52 PM | #234
good stuff
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Bogard
01.20.2012 , 08:52 PM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRealBrave View Post
I have a guild mate that is four Valor ranks below me and has champion in all but two slots. I have 3 pieces of champion gear. Sweet game Bioturd.
I just bumped an old thread on this but this one seems to be getting a lot more attention. I'm at 55 right now with 3 pieces (relic, implant, boots), yet i see other people in the 30s with a full set. Actually, you could get valor 100 (does it go that high?) with not a single piece of battlemaster gear. You get to wear leveling gear at 100 minus the champion gear you buy with scraps.

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Pacolypse
01.20.2012 , 09:09 PM | #236
Or... Why bother with pvp gear? Increase stats based soley off valor. Use it as a ranking system. Higher rank better damage/defense etc... Could be mentioned already, but I'm not gonna search for it !

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JackKerras
01.20.2012 , 09:17 PM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by Pacolypse View Post
Or... Why bother with pvp gear? Increase stats based soley off valor. Use it as a ranking system. Higher rank better damage/defense etc... Could be mentioned already, but I'm not gonna search for it !
Because gear is what people expect from a PvP game.

Global Agenda tried to do the you-just-get-better, no gear deal, and everyone universally hated it.

When it changed to a colored drop system (white, green, blue, purple) it got TONS more users and positive press.

Also, from a design standpoint, it's just better to give people things that they can use. Getting a level with a .5% damage increase is fine. Giving someone a new lightsaber that makes them hit equally harder universally makes them happier. It's why all MMOs are gear based; human brains are wired to like the idea of gear more than personal progression.

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Pacolypse
01.20.2012 , 09:23 PM | #238
But we have gear we can mod. There is no reason to have pvp gear other than what you mentioned. ...and that seems to be creating a huge issue. Oh look, a shiny....

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SardaTFK
01.20.2012 , 09:24 PM | #239
Its taken me from rank 4 to 52 getting 1/2 the possible champion pieces. I've seen rank 15s wearing nearly the full set and frankly i'm sick of it. There's people who casually pvp just enough to finish their win 3 daily wearing the entire gosh darned champion set, while I who pvp's all day long, has 1/2 what they got after putting in litteralyl 10x the effort.

This system is possibly the worst PVP reward system i've ever seen, in dozens of mmos, maybe in the history of gaming. Its gotten to the point were I could honestly care less to even look in my bags because I know i'm just going to get a 10th pair of bracers or my 12th offhand. And those numbers aren't a lie, i've gotten 5-12 extra's of the slots I already had. And sadly as a Warrior i'm not so blessed as say a Commando who had 3 companions that wear their armor, I got 1 (whom i never use), and he's wearing the same exact stuff I am.

It blows my mind that Battlemasters and only Battlemasters have a system that doesn't totally suck. There's zero reason why champion gear couldn't have been converted to the universal token system.

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Eradicatelol
01.20.2012 , 09:28 PM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRealBrave View Post
Starting from Tuesday I have opened 22 bags this week. 0 non-repeats - and by the way I only have 3 pieces of champion gear to begin with. **** this system of gearing RNG garbage.
down with rng bags
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