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In YOUR opinion: Will subscription rates drastically go down?

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In YOUR opinion: Will subscription rates drastically go down?

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BobHope
01.20.2012 , 05:11 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by SiskoEP View Post
Thanks, Ray Muzyka!

As for the rest of us who didn't work on the game and pay $15/month on top of the front end fee of purchasing the software, we're allowed to voice our anger when we get shafted.

I haven't played a warzone match in 2 days since the patch because our standard populated server has no level 50 characters.

I enjoyed this game immensely before the patch but now I'm locked out of an aspect of the game I'm paying for. Before you start, I'm not going to re-roll, and I shouldn't be expected to abandon my character every time a patch comes out.

I payed for the game, played it as designed and now am getting punished for it and still expected to continue to pay. I don't want this game to fail, but I also want what I paid for. It's in Bioware's hands to fix their problems. If it fails, it's all on them. All of the complaints that have been brought up since the patch are valid.

Bioware could communicate and acknowledge the problems to cool people down or they can continue to do what they're doing now. If they continue down their current path, I hope they get hurt financially by it so they can hustle to actually fix the problems and see there are consequences.
Listen, I am not a Bioware apologist (I reserve those sentimental feelings for free-market economies... haha), and I actually agree with what you said. My problem is not with substantive complaints, but rather the bandwagon nature of the doomsdayers and their unfounded negative predictions.

And I would NEVER suggest someone re-roll as a solution. Who has that kind of time? And as great as the content is in this game, its greatness is not of the easily repeatable nature.

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SiskoEP
01.20.2012 , 05:16 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by BobHope View Post
Listen, I am not a Bioware apologist (I reserve those sentimental feelings for free-market economies... haha), and I actually agree with what you said. My problem is not with substantive complaints, but rather the bandwagon nature of the doomsdayers and their unfounded negative predictions.

And I would NEVER suggest someone re-roll as a solution. Who has that kind of time? And as great as the content is in this game, its greatness is not of the easily repeatable nature.
Oh...well...thank you for the nice and thoughtful response

I ultimately don't want this game to fail, and I don't want to cancel my sub. But I don't want to give Bioware/EA free money either.

I just want them to fix the problems. I don't even want them to fix them TODAY. I'd be happy with them acknowledging the issues (especially my issue of not being able to play PvP AT ALL) and tell us that they're working on solutions and to stay tuned.

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Dallrenn
01.20.2012 , 05:17 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by Thelegendiryoku View Post
I believe yes, especially in the coming weeks.

I think right now its most if not all Republic players. But once the weeks go by without any real PvP Empire will get bored of making alts and playing Huttball and start to leave the game too.

Sad day.
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Saberolson
01.20.2012 , 05:18 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by SeanPoe View Post
This is the first MMO that i haven't re-subbed for after the first free month. It's like we're paying to play in the beta (and the developers don't even fix the bugs or implement new ideas that will make the game better). The state this game is in currently is completely unacceptable for today's gaming standards and Bioware's once good reputation will forever be tarnished because of it.
This is just hilarious!

Im not blind, there are bugs...but people, come on! Did any of you play warhammer, conan, DCU, ect? THis game is a DREAM compared to them. For that matter, did any of you play wow at launch? Its doubltful. Do any of you have the faintest idea how hard it is to test something when you are about to unleashed thousands of players into it at the same time? Of course you don't. You scream that they should have tested more, ect. Well if your cool with a $50 a month sub, that **** im sure we could get perfect games and patches. But I seriously doubt you are going to fork that kinda cash over are you?

Look at skyrim! Its only got one person playing in its world and its got more bugs and broken **** than landfill. I just dont get it. DCUO would crash or freeze at least 5 times a day, to were I would have to restart my PS3, AoC would damn near blow up my computer it would lock up so bad. There was NOTHING to do past lvl 50 and you still needed to get to lvl 80 I think to get to cap, where there was NOTHING to do. The classes were completly out of balance, seiges didnt work for months, dungeons didnt work, i could go on.

THis game is the best MMO outside of rift(which was the real wow 2.0) to come out in damn near 7 years and you crybabys still arent happy. This type of person is impossible to please, because wow is there only basis for what is good game. DO you know how much money is being fed into that beast, and they still break **** from time to time. Not to mention is been out for 8 years!! Its the nature of computer software. **** breaks.

Constructive critism is one thing, its needed to fix things. Log your complaints, talk about it, come up with way to make it better. But this rage quitting **** is ridiculous, esp since half of you arent quitting anyway! Im sorry to single this guy out, but i just snapped. I have crashed once...thats right once(wow still crashes to this day), I had one day with some random DC issues, I ran into 1 boss we didnt get loot from, thats it on the bug side. Yes they botched Ilum, **** happens, they fixed it. PVP has some issues(the randomness of those damn bags for one thing), PVE progressions is a little boinked.....but for the love of Thor, give em a month or two to straighten it out. Hindsight is always 20/20 folks. I would love to see any of you produce something better.

rant over.

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Derfmiolleh
01.20.2012 , 05:20 PM | #175
I think the "problems" with the game exaggerated on these forums. I have played every day since early release with just a few bugs. I see tons of people playing it with no complaints or game breaking problems. If anyone comes here with anything good to say they are called names and ridiculed. I think some will leave but not the mass numbers being predicted on these threads. Well see. Doesn't matter to me, I'll keep playing just like I do and if BioWare goes bankrupt and EA closes its doors I'll start playing any of the other thousands of games I enjoy. I think You and I will both be here a long time.

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Ahhmyface
01.20.2012 , 05:20 PM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaedann View Post
People who don't even play this game or care about it were reading a day ago about the ridiculous things happening to it. The Ilum thing along with the cancellation issues were plastered over every game news site i visited.

If you truly don't think bad news spreads like fire over the net, and eventually reaches the ears of analysts, you're very naive.

I'm not saying one way or the other if these issues did anything to EA's stock, but to think analysts don't get a feel for atleast some of the playerbase is just silly.
I'm an owner of EA stock, and I know how to invest, and you don't, apparently. You're silly for even thinking that this is a factor. Stock is down because a recent industry report indicated game sales for 2011 were down 21%, an insanely more important thing than a few bad reviews from fickle tantrum throwers that weren't going to stay long anyway.

For the record, EA went up today while GOOG fell 8.3% percent. I suppose you saw the butterfly flap its wings for that one too. Guessing without evidence is pointless.
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01.20.2012 , 05:21 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by XenonParsec View Post
Inorite, how ridiculous and absurd that the consumer reacted to the product, chose to cancel subscription, and that performance was reflected in the stock price of a company that provides said product.

Like I said, you could always email the analysts directly, and demand an explanation.
Or I could look at market trends, knowing full well that EAs stock is way down from what it was before SWTOR was even released, and that there have been no major swings in the stock price, despite the amount of press the game has received.

Different analysis predict different things. Check this article out, 3 different analysts give 3 different projections. http://localizedusa.com/2012/01/20/e...bush-analysts/

TBH, I don't know why I'm posting this. If you think that SWTOR will affect EA's stock in any significant way you are delusional. EA is a 6 billion dollar company and SWTOR is a 200 million dollar investment that has already shown returns exceeding expectations.

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BobHope
01.20.2012 , 05:23 PM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by SiskoEP View Post
Oh...well...thank you for the nice and thoughtful response

I ultimately don't want this game to fail, and I don't want to cancel my sub. But I don't want to give Bioware/EA free money either.

I just want them to fix the problems. I don't even want them to fix them TODAY. I'd be happy with them acknowledging the issues (especially my issue of not being able to play PvP AT ALL) and tell us that they're working on solutions and to stay tuned.
Ditto. And that's the attitude we should all have, I think. The ability delay post by the devs today really encouraged me. As much as I love pvp, and the idea of Illum, the delay is numero uno for both pvp and pve.

What gets me is the way it seems like the great ideas for pvp from Warhammer are being tempered by WoW conventions, which is leading to a pvp system with an identity crisis.... But I guess that's a discussion for another thread.

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-Zajo-
01.20.2012 , 05:27 PM | #179
Regardless of what anyone say, the server status page clearly shows the status of the game. You may read it and say, hey it's going great or you may read it and call it tortanic. I say follow that page and see what it tells you and disregard what everyone else say.

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Scoobings
01.20.2012 , 05:31 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by SiskoEP View Post
Oh...well...thank you for the nice and thoughtful response

I ultimately don't want this game to fail, and I don't want to cancel my sub. But I don't want to give Bioware/EA free money either.

I just want them to fix the problems. I don't even want them to fix them TODAY. I'd be happy with them acknowledging the issues (especially my issue of not being able to play PvP AT ALL) and tell us that they're working on solutions and to stay tuned.
Just because I'm curious, what server are you on?

I've always felt that this game is probably going to need cross server ques eventually (even though everyone seems to be so against that for some reason). The good news is that they have the back end coding ready (if we are to believe what they say, which I do) and can impliment it whenever certain servers get hit hard.
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