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In YOUR opinion: Will subscription rates drastically go down?

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In YOUR opinion: Will subscription rates drastically go down?

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XenonParsec
01.20.2012 , 04:56 PM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by PulseXXX View Post
I'm laughing at your absurd assumption that somehow, the SWTOR PvP playerbase had anything at all to do with the price of EA stock.
Inorite, how ridiculous and absurd that the consumer reacted to the product, chose to cancel subscription, and that performance was reflected in the stock price of a company that provides said product.

Like I said, you could always email the analysts directly, and demand an explanation.

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Kaedann
01.20.2012 , 04:58 PM | #162
Those 75%-90% seem a bit high for what's been happening at endgame. I can't speak for 2 million people, but I was enthusiastic about the game come launch, and got about 20 of my other friends to play so we can start a guild. Exactly 0 of us are renewing. This is from various viewpoints, pvp, pve, casual etc...

The game just did too much wrong and not enough right for any of us. Especially if you are mainly interested in the PvP aspects of the game. The implementation was just horrendous, and I found the combat for pve just so stale.

I'm sure they will retain alot of people only because of the branding alone, but I can't help but feel if this game launched as a new IP, or any other title for that matter, it would have faded so fast.

Might take longer for some people to realize exactly the mess Bioware is creating here.

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BobHope
01.20.2012 , 04:59 PM | #163
I can't stand these threads (no offense to the OP), because they perpetuate the fear and distrust that is the downfall of so many mmo's.

This game's future is being traded on the freaking stock market of forum idiocy, while trolls plant seeds of impatience to cause a selling spree.

Play the game. Enjoy the fact that you're in on the ground floor of an ongoing story telling experience made by people who legitimately care about polish and the community (as evidence by their actions as of late).

When the devs stop caring, then run for the hills, but until then, have a little consumer compassion for some people who've worked their butts off.

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Ahhmyface
01.20.2012 , 05:01 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by ThisGuyThat View Post
No one will post anything useful in this thread. "Haters" will say they will based on a general impressiona, "fanboys" say they won't because QQkids lie and PvP population is insignificant.

If you're looking for real info you'd do us all good by doing some actual data hunting.

If you're looking for baseless opinions (including my own) feel free to peruse any 20+ page topic, as they're all about the same thing and have the same responses.
Who let this guy into the forums? We only cry and spout baseless info here.
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Ahhmyface
01.20.2012 , 05:05 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by XenonParsec View Post
Inorite, how ridiculous and absurd that the consumer reacted to the product, chose to cancel subscription, and that performance was reflected in the stock price of a company that provides said product.

Like I said, you could always email the analysts directly, and demand an explanation.
Rofl... yeah, those analysts totally get an email and a page everytime somebody cancels a subscription.
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BobHope
01.20.2012 , 05:06 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahhmyface View Post
Who let this guy into the forums? We only cry and spout baseless info here.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! If I did forums sigs, this post would be it. Nice.

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01.20.2012 , 05:06 PM | #167
Every game releases too early these days and by the time they get it right, they have lost most of their customers. Customers do not like "significant" game changes after official release. SWG and AoC both come to mind. Heck AoC is even a decent game now but it's too late...way too many changes.
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SiskoEP
01.20.2012 , 05:07 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by BobHope View Post
I can't stand these threads (no offense to the OP), because they perpetuate the fear and distrust that is the downfall of so many mmo's.

This game's future is being traded on the freaking stock market of forum idiocy, while trolls plant seeds of impatience to cause a selling spree.

Play the game. Enjoy the fact that you're in on the ground floor of an ongoing story telling experience made by people who legitimately care about polish and the community (as evidence by their actions as of late).

When the devs stop caring, then run for the hills, but until then, have a little consumer compassion for some people who've worked their butts off.
Thanks, Ray Muzyka!

As for the rest of us who didn't work on the game and pay $15/month on top of the front end fee of purchasing the software, we're allowed to voice our anger when we get shafted.

I haven't played a warzone match in 2 days since the patch because our standard populated server has no level 50 characters.

I enjoyed this game immensely before the patch but now I'm locked out of an aspect of the game I'm paying for. Before you start, I'm not going to re-roll, and I shouldn't be expected to abandon my character every time a patch comes out.

I payed for the game, played it as designed and now am getting punished for it and still expected to continue to pay. I don't want this game to fail, but I also want what I paid for. It's in Bioware's hands to fix their problems. If it fails, it's all on them. All of the complaints that have been brought up since the patch are valid.

Bioware could communicate and acknowledge the problems to cool people down or they can continue to do what they're doing now. If they continue down their current path, I hope they get hurt financially by it so they can hustle to actually fix the problems and see there are consequences.

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Kaedann
01.20.2012 , 05:08 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahhmyface View Post
Rofl... yeah, those analysts totally get an email and a page everytime somebody cancels a subscription.
People who don't even play this game or care about it were reading a day ago about the ridiculous things happening to it. The Ilum thing along with the cancellation issues were plastered over every game news site i visited.

If you truly don't think bad news spreads like fire over the net, and eventually reaches the ears of analysts, you're very naive.

I'm not saying one way or the other if these issues did anything to EA's stock, but to think analysts don't get a feel for atleast some of the playerbase is just silly.

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-kobie-
01.20.2012 , 05:10 PM | #170
The instant gratification crowd here is rearing its ugly head. Everyone expects a perfect game a month out of launch, and I QUIT RIGHT NOW IF IT IS NOT FLAWLESS WHARGARRBL
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