People doing this should be banned on sight

I commend them for their efficiency.

I've heard stories of this cropping up on a significant number of servers. People have rolled characters on my server and sent me tells, asking questions, trolling, and the like. A proper solution to this problem requires significant dev work and planning, not something that can really be fixed with a hotfix overnight.

If you have that much of a problem with it, go stop it on your own server by attacking the opposite faction as you would normally do. Calling for bans because I reported it...*shrug*

Do you honestly think that if I sent an email to Customer Support that it wouldn't fall through the cracks during initial launch month?

You're missing the main point. It's right at the beginning of my post; the only point you didn't respond to. It's the thought process.

The examples were just that. Examples. They were meant to reflect the mindset, not be mirror situations.

Now I agree with you about human nature, etc. People will naturally take the path of least resistance. But that doesn't obsolve them of the responsibilities making that decision entails. There is always a choice to do it a different way.

It doesn't matter whether or not it was stupid of me(BW) to leave my keys(bugs) in my car(game). You(general you) still made the decision to take advantage(exploit) of it. Could I have take better precautions? Most definitely. Though in the end it only slows down the people who want to find them. Even the most cautious people make mistakes and there are always those people with that mindset who will take advantage.

Is it not BW's goal to make money as well? I know it is grossly over exaggerated on these forums, but people are cancelling subs over this. While I may be directly stealing from Wal-Mart the people who are exploiting are cause BW to lose money as well. And worse, as this spreads through word-of-mouth people that were thinking about picking up the game won't now causing even more potential profit to be lost.

Wal-Mart is estimated to lose about 3 billion dollars to theft per year. While that's less than 1% of the total sales it's still a huge amount of money. So while their security is effective I wouldn't say it still has it's faults. There is only so much you can do without going completely Gestapo. See: putting a GM in ilum to one shot anyone they think might be/have been participating in things like this.

My argument was never that they should leave bugs in game, exploitable or otherwise. In fact I was never even arguing that any action actually be taken against people that participate in these kinds of activities. I simply said if you choose to you have to accept the consequences.

Business sense has nothing to do with it. But for the record, accepting responsibility for your actions is very good business sense. Why do you think there is so much outcry for BW to just admit that they screwed up? Because it would pacify people; it would make them happy to know that BW understands their frustration and are doing something about it. And that's not even counting the whole word-of-mouth fiasco this mess could represent for them.

I don't actually care one way or the other what happens to people that did/are doing this. See: main point. I don't even care if BW does nothing about it and leaves the ability to do it in game. All this does is give gear to poor players. In any given MMO skill is the determining factor in an on level PvP match up. Only if the difference between gear is so extreme that you stand no chance of survival will it really make a difference and others have already pointed out the difference between BM and champ gear is small.

I get banned and warned over and over because I tell trolls in Warzone to leave but people like this don't get banned?

Not resubbing next month.

200 valor x 30 = 6k valors (assuming you have 30 toons)


6k valors x rotation of about 10 min......


3600 valor per hour.



warzone win average 6 medals.... 1100 valors.
average warzone 15 min

15 x 4 = 60 minutes.


4400 valors per hour

Might want to check your math.

To correct your assumptions

180 Bonus Valor +20 - per Kill
x
30 Republic
x
(60/4) Every 4 Minutes =15
=
90,000 Valor Every Hour

Holy crap, I just spit my coffee out. I am sure my IQ just went from 126 to 86.

I missed a zero meant to say 36k not 3600 lol

Ok, that's cool.

Your post was very neutral, so I couldn't tell if you were trying say that the method described by the video was better or warzones were better.