premade pvp teams should be banned

Premades need their own que system away from pugs.


I don't feel sorry for allowing people to have handicaps. A pug is an unorganized group of people. A premade has A 50% more higher chance at winning due to the fact they know the have at least 4 people on their team listening. Most of the time the other 4 will simply follow suit.


Every Warzone is objective based which means pugs have to worry about AFKers,People who want to test or learn rotations and simply people who want to ROFL face smash someone.

Having 4 people run in on void star while progressively communicating is very hard to beat when having to type out which door they are going to while being beat down while you type it out.

Nobody said you couldn't play with your friends but the fact is you need your own que to go down because some of us don't like the fact that you win simply because you have a mic next to your mouth and can get faster response times to devastate a random group of people.

Synergy is KEY to any competitive thing in this world. Whether it be running a company or winning wz's in SWTOR.

Synergy will always win. The only reason sometimes pug win against premade is because of natural synergy, this is when the matchmaking system has done its job and you get the perfect team with healers to accommodate. Or you just didn't notice that you were the pug while your other 4 teammate were a premade.

How dare people come into a team-based pvp match and display teamwork!

We must put a stop to this! Everyone knows that each game mode is better when no one works together and everyone just randomly attacks the first enemy they see!



I do however support improvements to the pvp matchmaker to try to match pre-mades (and levels) better. Not to remove the possibility of pugs facing them but reduce it as much as possible without " punishing" people with significantly longer queues (e.g. forcing pre-mades to wait until there is an exactly equal pre-made would be stupid).

lmao...I liked it.

The guy above this post solved that problem with using multi-server queues for the premade groups so there would not be extra waiting time.

I mostly pug, but have been on the premade side with my guild in WOW. A pug group has almost no chance against this (ventrillo/team speak, know your teammate's strengths and weakness, actual cooperation vs. guys typing through out the entire BG how much the other guys sucks, etc.).

I've always wanted a rated 1 v 1. Just a round arena with a sand floor. No ramps, no columns, no LoS issues. No beating a guy and then the his teammate piling on to tip the scale. The rewards should be less than a group of people since it's less effort than forming a group. Maybe the season winner of the 1 v 1 can have huge banner of his/her toon hanging in the spaceport....bragging rights.

I am glad my subtleness did not escape your astute and meticulous assessment...lol.

I am also glad to hear you bolster your ego on the basis of MMO forum posts. Good for you, buddy!

sigh... you should give up pvp troll.

Bioware Please do not listen to the community! Keep doing what you do... These guys have no clue the ramifications of their proposed changes.

You guys are all the same... "OMG Change the game now now NOW! We need this change!"

2 years later..... Hey lets all play on private Vanilla SWTOR servers because BW has killed the game... oh why can't we just have it back the way it was in the first year?!"

Just like what happened to WoW... they listened to the 2% of the community that uses the forums at the expense of the 98% that are too busy enjoying the game to post anything in the first place.

If I have to endure premades to avoid cross realm warzones than so be it...

the forums should only be used to highlight potential issues.

All balancing should be done based on data mined from the game.

To pretend that you don't get a positive mental reaction from catching someone else's mistakes grammatically is to deny the basic human instinct of increasing ones self esteem through the comparison to those you view as inferior.

WoW keeps them separate at level 85. Are you saying separate them at level 50, or for the less than 50's too?