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George Lucas Blames 'Star Wars' Critics for Killing Series

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George Lucas Blames 'Star Wars' Critics for Killing Series

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harlekwin
01.20.2012 , 11:46 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Gestahlt View Post
If the prequels had not been made, there would be no KOTOR fandom.

Let's keep in mind that the release of the prequels is what re-energized a dying IP. Whether bad or good, they brought attention back to a new generation.
I disagree, without the EU there would not have been the new trilogy not the other way around.

Lucas has thought of nothing in the last 25 years that eclipses Timothy Zahn or Drew K.

Kotor the game has more artistic content, integrity, and cogent narrative than the three new films and tv cartoons combined.

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Riggnas
01.20.2012 , 12:12 PM | #92
I just want to post to say why we as fans have the right to be critical.

Imagine you falling in love with a beautifull young woman even though she has her flaws you think she is perfect and fine the way she is.

20 Years later she is a completely different fat ugly lazy woman with strange habits and poor choices of words.

Wouldn't you rather see that woman grow old gracefully and mature like fine wine. Instead of seeing her become the meatball chugging fatty that she has become.

You have every right to say: ENOUGH!! STOP DOING THAT!! I want to remember the way you used to be!

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LordRelyks
01.20.2012 , 12:14 PM | #93
Oh all the critics can get over the prequels, I thought they were great, and am extremely excited, along with my family, for Episode 1 in 3D.


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Kharnis
01.20.2012 , 12:36 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Riggnas View Post
I just want to post to say why we as fans have the right to be critical.

Imagine you falling in love with a beautifull young woman even though she has her flaws you think she is perfect and fine the way she is.

20 Years later she is a completely different fat ugly lazy woman with strange habits and poor choices of words.

Wouldn't you rather see that woman grow old gracefully and mature like fine wine. Instead of seeing her become the meatball chugging fatty that she has become.

You have every right to say: ENOUGH!! STOP DOING THAT!! I want to remember the way you used to be!
Except that "beautiful young woman" you supposedly fell in love with is not your wife. She's someone else's. Are you sure you want to use a stalker analogy to explain your behaviour?
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Riggnas
01.20.2012 , 12:39 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Kharnis View Post
Except that "beautiful young woman" you supposedly fell in love with is not your wife. She's someone else's. Are you sure you want to use a stalker analogy to explain your behaviour?
Did I hit a nerve in some way?

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Baracca
01.20.2012 , 12:47 PM | #96
If things get tough, quit. Self responsibility, he has not!

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darthmorbous
01.20.2012 , 12:58 PM | #97
"the clone wars" may contain some of the best star wars dialogs/plots/scenes/battles/duels
EVER in star wars universe.
Did you check out the clones episodes when this jedi general makes troopers kill each other without em to know?

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Riggnas
01.20.2012 , 01:05 PM | #98
Yes some of the Clone Wars episodes are Golden, others can be Horrible. Still the Clone Wars is perfect example of GL not knowing who is audience is. Some themes are very heavy, torture, slavery, insanity, warcrimes.

So what is the target audience?

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Kadic
01.20.2012 , 01:05 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
I think the issue that people had with the prequels is that they felt like a totally different setting and genre.

The originals - especially Empire Strikes Back - felt like serious movies for the most part. Yeah, there were silly parts like R2-D2, but it was measured and metered. It was just the right amount usually. (Ewoks notwithstanding) By and large the rest of the series felt like there was a significant gravity about what was going on.

Then in the prequels, it often just felt like a full on comedy:

"Oh Jar-Jar tripped and grabbed that cart of bombs and it fell open and the bombs all hit some bad guys and oh hahahaha"

"Oh Anakin accidently turned on that fighter and flew up into the bad ship and accidently blew it all up and oh hahaha"

Even most of the villians seemed like a complete joke for the most part, aside from the sith characters themselves. The Trade Federation guys felt like Keystone Cops. The alien characters all seemed like caricatures, just full of silly voices, silly mannerisms, etc. Not just different or exotic, just perpetually silly.

That's probably what put people off the most. The fact that much of the time it felt like we were watching Spaceballs, not Star Wars.

I think the last part about Spaceballs is an extreme exaggeration but do you think the bulk of why you feel this way could have something to do with the fact that you're now 30 years older than you were when you watched episodes 4,5, and 6? I mean seriously, episodes 4,5, and 6 are really not any different than 1,2, and 3 except for technological advancements, CGI, etc... A big part of the criticism from fans (I believe) is the result of being much older when the prequels came out and somehow not getting the same nostalgic (or "magical") feel they had when they were 10 years old and watched the very first Star Wars movie. Ya think? I would hope you didn't have the same giddy feeling after 30 years into adulthood.

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Baracca
01.20.2012 , 01:08 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by LordRelyks View Post
Oh all the critics can get over the prequels, I thought they were great, and am extremely excited, along with my family, for Episode 1 in 3D.
Poor plot (trade agreement?), poor dialog, poor characters (yes even darth maul sucked - he said 2 lines then died), poor cast, poor acting, 20 min pod racing game commercial with no music, willow? for no reason in the stands. I could go on but I'm tired of typing.