Operatives Stealth Spec are in desperate need of a nerf

5-6k with hidden strike is completely possible (but even that is RNG, as you need to crit).

5-6k with backstab - not.

Lacerate can do 3k damage (or thereabouts).

From a lvl 20ish? No.

NOT from a lvl 20-something Operative without Expertise and all that crazy buffs/pots.

I meant in general (end-game), I already highlighted how bs the OP's story was on the previous page.

even if he got that amount of dmg...lets just imagine that were possible at that average gear level ok?

hidden strike is only used one time...why? cuz you can only use it coming out of stealth. And you cant say they will just use cloaking screen, blah blah blah...because thats got quite the CD on it...so if that isn't up...the guy will have to wait a good 30 seconds without being touched because why? Bioware feels the need to keep you in combat for about as long as an actual world war 2 battle. Lacerate will crit for 3k...but on average its about 2k. What you don't know is you have to have a buff up to use it. so yea, it should be hitting for that. backstab, 4k if you crit...2.5k reg (roughly)...these are numbers in actual champion gear.

I should really just hop on mine and go pvp - take some screen shots and stuff to prove you all wrong...but why do that. That would spoil all the fun in laughing at how ridiculous you all sound crying about operatives.

You're really the whole nine yards, buddy.

When I think back to Rift, I can see your face on the body of a warrior, trotting along on your mighty steed, laughing at all those beneath you, entirely convinced of your own superiority.

You are quite the entertainer.

Nerf Rogues!

Owait... wrong game.

Absolute BS,

an operative even at lvl 36 with hidden strike cant burst a tank down in 7 seconds. you are flat out wrong and exaggerating to the point of ridiculous. quit the game or ****. In any case stop making BS threads persecuting a class that is pretty damn crappy once its opener is over. I play a marauder and an Operative and even my mara doesnt get ownd that fast by lvl 40+ ops and im 47 on my mara.

they will nerf ops, and along with it lose another ton of subs. Purely because alot of the other classes arent fun!! Sure BH can spam tracer and out dps an Op .. and mara can spam 5000 buttons and outdamage an Op... or u can be sorc number 9999999999 the other classes just arent fun to alot of players... and its not because Ops are OP.. its just because the classes are bland or way to micro manage reliant. If they do nerf ops and ruin one of the only classes that is actually fun i think it will send the message that they listen to rtards like the original poster and basically we might as well all just spend our days crying on the forums... it will become more of a game than the Client.. we can grind out classes on the forums... "hmm i tihnk i might try get enough rep to nerf BHs this week"

I was a warden, had no problems with any class really (just couldn't kill other healers). Why? Cuz I knew how to play. Just because you die to a certain class doesnt necessarily mean it needs to be nerfed. Until you honestly sit down and play every class, gear them all up and put actual effort into comparing them, then just stop talking about it, because frankly I've yet to see anything constructive in this thread except crying. Ops are fairly easy to counter. Try dueling some and learn instead of sharpening your forum warrior skills.

eh champion gear + expertise potions i play ops there not that great when you go up against people on the same gear lvl as you