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Will unsubscribed people not be able to post after today?

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Hellmet
01.20.2012 , 01:34 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by DavesTheName View Post
If you read half of the posts in this thread you see why I ask the question. A forum where only subscribers can post makes sense. That way even when people complain it will be a legitimate complaint. Not "The game is the buggiest ever released, everything is broken".
So people who bought the game can't complain until they start subbing after the 1st month of gameplay?
It's a trap!

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Godjinrai
01.20.2012 , 01:35 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Vehar View Post
Go look at he posts being deleted. When the crazy person is asking people to "Stand up don't take this lying down /frothy mouth, kill bioware! if they don't listen!" Or "Hey I said blah blah, but you didn't listen and my special snowflake syndrome means you have to listen to me should be deleted. Lr2write constructively.
wow you make a lot of valid arguments... actually most the posts start out with legit complaints...and most the time the trolls I see are the ones that are paying subs asking for peoples gear...

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Vehar
01.20.2012 , 01:37 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Godjinrai View Post
wow you make a lot of valid arguments... actually most the posts start out with legit complaints...and most the time the trolls I see are the ones that are paying subs asking for peoples gear...
Well not the ones I seem to find, this guy on another thread is just plain crazy. Acting like he is liberating us from a dictator.
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Apax
01.20.2012 , 01:37 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by DavesTheName View Post
Exactly, but is the most used part of the forum. I've not had anything I wanted to discuss so far that wouldn't be considered "general", so I come here more often than any other parts of the forum. It hurts my eyes.
There is no reason you can't create a topic, bookmark it, and then use your bookmark to check for responses. You don't have to set your eyes on all the other topics that strike you as overly negative.

Sadly, over zealous fans will kill this game faster than any hater ever could. Because in their eyes the game is perfect, Bioware products are perfect (let's ignore the likely reality that most of this team never worked on a Bioware title before, as this was a newly formed and freshly staffed studio in Texas), and since everything is so incredibly perfect nothing needs to improve or change. So, we'll get stuck with the game as it exists today.

Don't get me wrong, there are some serious trolls on the forums who hate the way this game turned out and just want to bring everything down with them as they exit the scene. But there are also customers with legitimate concerns and complaints. And, unfortunately, they can rarely get a word in edgewise without some fan-nuts jumping all over them.

The discussions on this forum won't be useful until people from both extremes stay away.
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DavesTheName
01.20.2012 , 01:43 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Apax View Post
There is no reason you can't create a topic, bookmark it, and then use your bookmark to check for responses. You don't have to set your eyes on all the other topics that strike you as overly negative.

Sadly, over zealous fans will this game faster than any hater ever could. Because in their eyes the game is perfect, Bioware products are perfect (let's ignore the likely reality that most of this team never worked on a Bioware title before, as this was a newly formed and freshly staffed studio in Texas), and since everything is so incredibly perfect nothing needs to improve or change. So, we'll get stuck with the game as it exists today.

Don't get me wrong, there are some serious trolls on the forums who hate the way this game turned out and just want to bring everything down with them as they exit the scene. But there are also customers with legitimate concerns and complaints. And, unfortunately, they can rarely get a word in edgewise without some fan-nuts jumping all over them.

The discussions on this forum won't be useful until people from both extremes stay away.
The game isn't perfect, but I'm seeing the same complaint pasted all over the forum day after day and on top of legitimate complaints I'm also seeing threads that make outlandish complaints such as "everything is broken". Complainy threads are fine - from people who write them properly and complain about things worth complaining about. When there are 100 threads saying "Omg this game is so broken I can't even log in BW have stolen my money lag is so bad game is broken lol GW2 will walk all over SWTOR lol bai" then it just gets a bit much, you know?
Too busy enjoying SWTOR to really post much

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EverlongAU
01.20.2012 , 01:55 AM | #36
Most posts that get nuked are simply because they are posting in the wrong forum.

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tehmoose
01.20.2012 , 01:58 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by DavesTheName View Post
If you read half of the posts in this thread you see why I ask the question. A forum where only subscribers can post makes sense. That way even when people complain it will be a legitimate complaint. Not "The game is the buggiest ever released, everything is broken".
Sorry, legit complaints get shouted down just as hard as OMG SKYFALLING!!1! posts.

It'll be interesting to see the forums become an echo chamber of self congratulatory BW leg humping.
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radersdad
01.20.2012 , 02:10 AM | #38
We all desperately want this forum to become a fanboi love fest but it just ain't gonna happen because some non-fanbois let their subs run out. What we need is fixes of numerous problems that seriously affect playability and solid no-nonsense info from devs on upcoming fixes. What will drive people away and make them complain on a forum is "no fixie/no talkie."

ToR is a fun game that was released a month or two early and needs to work hard to catch up and clean up the problems they might have fixed had they had another 6-8 weeks. Until then, players who continue to experience these problems will come here and make threads complaining about stuff that doesn't work. Fanbois will continue to call for a utopian hivemind of "all is well" but the only realistic way to get there is BW ramping up the support/dev staff, rolling up their sleeves and getting to work.

Closing/deleting complainers threads is not going to cut it in the long run and they know that. Subs are the goal and we can't afford to keep losing them and keep the game viable. A discrete portion of the playerbase want only a few thousand other fanbois to enjoy the game and be the special ones. I can understand and appreciate that sentiment but BW is not going to play along. They want the subs of all those complainers out there; despite what fanbois believe, no one has "special" money, to them it is all just green.

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Nitewolfe
01.20.2012 , 02:19 AM | #39
I am keeping my sub and ill still be here complaining about things that are not right or missing in this game.
You see i wan th game to succeed! Its not going to as long as there is nothing but fanboys posting OMG you rock BW!
When some thing is wrong, broken or missing it needs to be put out there!
Oh and dont tell me run back to wow. I still play it and rift and this. I feel it makes me a well rounded player with out blinders on!

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Pink_Saber
01.20.2012 , 02:23 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by tehmoose View Post
Sorry, legit complaints get shouted down just as hard as OMG SKYFALLING!!1! posts.

It'll be interesting to see the forums become an echo chamber of self congratulatory BW leg humping.
If legit complaints look like this... well, your definition of legit has issues.

Constructive criticism doesn't get deleted -- unless the thread gets swarmed by rabid, raging nerds, which unfortunately seems to happen a lot.

If it's not constructive, why keep it? This forum isn't for people who have unsubbed, or want it to fail. It's here for people who play the game.