Bag RNG System: Aging Poorly

valor rank 34 here, only missing my gloves and i've only gotten a repeat on my offhand...

/flex

Sadly, there is not. I wish I could give you better news, but all I can do is keep this somewhere people can see it and hope a developer reads it and likes my idea.

Hell, I'd work for 'em for intern cash and move on my own dime. I love doing this crap and I don't eat very much! XD

Great idea. Sounds fun. Much better than RNG.

Yep! Some folks are just plain luckier than others.

But my roomie still has identical pants for every other day of the week. And no lightsaber.

It's a real shame! I mean, Hell, I have none of the gear at all and I'm VR34. I play more PvP than you, though, if you're 50 and 34 and I'm 44 and 34.

im valor rank 65 i have 2 centurion pieces still and ive opened enough battlemaster bags to have gotten 70 plus champion marks.... please rng gods just help me out a little here

Glad you think so! Star it up and keep the bumping going, we'll get somebody's attention if it gets me a forum ban for solicitation!

You don't need help from the RNG gods. You need help from the game designers. You need them to design you a system that will allow you to actually progress in their game without relying on ******** gambling mechanics to carry their subscriptions into the coming months.

We're hearing the cries of no more gambling bags already and we're barely two months in! It bodes well for better systems and more guidance for folks who just queue for the Hell of it and fight because they don't have clear goals.

You do realize that at 70 champion commendations you realistically should have only gotten 1-2 pieces for any other game's rational gearing rate. You should not have 1 piece of the highest pvp quality per every 5 bags like people seem to want to happen.

The only issues here are:

1) You can get the same item multiple times

2) RNG is RNG and you can get 1 item in every bag if you're really lucky or no items in 50 bags which is extreme.

No items in 20 bags or so is not that bad considering a lot of other games it would take you about 2 weeks to obtain 1 piece of the top end pvp gear. More than 25 bags with no gear is where it starts to get bad, but at that point, you're just getting completely boned by RNG and might wanna go buy a rabbit's foot.

Sounds like a great system...

I'm valor 55 and I am still missing Helmet, Chest, Ear, Offhand, and main Hand. So some way of getting Champ gear without praying to the gods not to get Bracer #4, Implant #6, Relic #5, Pant #4 or Belt #4 would be nice.

See, this is my problem.

You should not need a rabbit's foot for this stuff. People keep playing CoD for years on end because no matter what, that bar is always climbing.

Opening twenty bags for no gear isn't progression. Each bag does not give you a higher and higher chance to get more gear from subsequent bags; they have no effect on the overall drop rate of their fellow bags, so no matter how many you open, you may very well be either equally lucky or equally screwed.

There's no effect. There's no way to say, yes, I am getting closer every day. Yes, each game I play gets me that much nearer to my crazy crazy lightsaber. There's no way. The current system destroys the sense of momentum needed to create insanely hooked-in players like Modern Warfare 2 or even Battlefield have. In our game you can't even swap weapons and start getting new commendations just to shake things up, or swap to your Revolver and go around trying for wheelgun headshots to keep yourself amused.

There's nothing to break the monotony, and without a goal marching steadily closer, you get despair. With despair, you get people going to play other games, lost subs, and sour feelings throughout the community... like my roomie, who likes TOR but is mega pissed that he has five pairs of identical pants. It's going to drive him to quit; I know him well, and I can hear his 'I'm unsubbing' discussion coming down the road. It'll be a few months yet, but this issue -will- drive him to another game.

Or else Diablo will come out and he just won't care about anything but that anymore.

You see the issue here, though? Relying on RNG to grant gear is the worst possible way to do it. You -really- have to let people -progress- instead of just occasionally getting an upgrade.

I agree man....valor 46 now...started at 24 and gained all it in WZ's...stopped counting after 50+bags and i have chest and boots....gotten about 8 relics 6 earrings and 8 implants...believe me i hear you...its getting to the point of why the **** even bother...thats when you see a valor 29 guy with full champ gear and 2 champ weapons....makes me wanna punch a baby