Rose tinted glasses are a PITA..

WoW: released Nov. 2004
Swotr: released Dec. 2011

That quote is like saying its okay a brand new car you bought today doesn't run as good as a car bought 7 years ago.

Depends on what I got in return.

That is one of the worst analogies I have ever seen.

A far better analogy would be expecting a cheap family sedan that has been in production for less then a year to have the same refinement and features as a cheap family sedan that has been in production for more then seven.

I love this thread. It finally has some people who understand that the game was released only a month ago and they don't expect everything to be perfect right away. Thank you everybody. <3

Damn, for a quick second I thought this thread was finished.

ITT: People that didn't play WoW at launch "remember" the downtimes and endgame.

The downtimes are being greatly exaggerated, and were worked out very quickly. MC was up but Rag was unkillable. Onyxia was up. UBRS was 10/15 man as was Strat and Scholo in practice.

Melee classes had issues. None of them were as bad as ability delay in SWTOR.

PVP _as we know it_ didn't actually land until May/June. Guess what game defined theme park PVP _as we know it_? Oh right, WoW with those patches.

This thread is like criticizing the early Beatles for doing cover songs and standards. Guess where our modern expectation of a _band_ that writes their own songs and plays their own instruments came from? Oh right, the Beatles.

WoW set it own standards and thus raised the standards of the industry. They certainly weren't content to compare themselves favorably to 1999 EQ 2005 EQ2 or any other game at any state.

It's not about Ilum being farmland for one day it's about that farmland day granting very obvious and significant advantage to the side that already has upper hand in game.

What are chances that almost all of the bugs in this game negatively affect Republic side? Astronomical, and yet that's what has happened.

For example - Alderaan civil war urges Republic players to run left and Empire to also run left out of their respective starting areas. Yet turret that Empire is urged to run to shaves off 20HP without even firing one shot once captured and it ticks faster. And that is just one example in sea of idiocy and corruption that has not been corrected or addressed.

Don't worry this game will turn into Star Wars : The second coming when majority of Reps stop pvping on servers they are outnumbered on and when on pve servers they withdraw into PVE shell.

But there is a solution OH YES there is a solution. Every warzone will allow for Imps vs Imps because that's the only faction that's going to be left pvping. That anon EA whistle blower was onto something...

By this, is it safe to assume that you were not playing at vanilla release? Wrath had issues, Cata had issues. Wrath had people complaining about the instancing, login servers, authentication servers, some couldnt install the game. Point is, NOTHING works smoothly. There were many different and equally frustrating "catastrophes" in ALL of Blizzards patches and expansions, even after 7 years of "polish". Have a read at http://www.curse.com/news/world-of-w...1-known-issues

Most people barely remember Vanilla WoW release and the months of issues that ensued. Customer service was extremely poor, the devs were not saying a thing. Players had a warrior protest (January 29 2005..not even three months after release) on Argent Dawn, players were so ticked off about changes to the class. It crashed the server, and as a result enraged players who were not part of said protest. Suspensions galore ensued.

A simple google search can net you almost every patch that any MMO has come out with and a list of issues and bugs that went with them. SWTOR will have its share as well. Get used to the fact that **** happens and no company that develops and publishes games ESPECIALLY internet based mmorpgs are infallible. No one company shares its inner workings with another, and no amount of observations is going to prepare anyone for what can and will happen.

Bugs and problems aside, this game is a welcome break from WoW. However, I played WoW from day 1 just like ToR and although OP greatly exaggerates the problems (or just doesn't know) the main point is this: CS has been less than satisfactory concerning the problems in this launch. Like them or not, blizz has decent CS overall.

Non-fanboi players will reamin patient only for so long when it doesn't seem like problems are being addressed. Either BW didn't anticipate the number of bugs, number of players, or was understaffed (due to the holidays?). In any event, lots of bugs and glitches are survivable (did WoW survive the apocalyptic bugfest OP considers that launch?). Heck yes, and CS and dialogue with players made a big difference in that.

Excellent post,when WOW launched my server went offline maybe 3-4 hrs the 1st week and yet I was granted 7 days for the problems.I had a little loot lag the first couple days but that's it.Many people claim massive bugs and downtime,I sure didn't see it and was on a busy server.

Point to me is the fact that the fun there far outweighed the few distraction's,not the case here,at least not for me.