Consequences for Farming Valor

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Consequences for Farming Valor

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Jestunhi

01.19.2012 , 01:31 PM \| #41	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellod I would appreciate a guarantee from BW that those responsible for camping MedCenters on Ilum will be dealt with accordingly. This seems like the least they could do given the oversight. Anyone else? Edit - By dealt with I mean rolling back rank, etc.. Not banning or anything like that. Edit 2 - Rules of Conduct quoted from ABRY's post. From the Rules of Conduct.... Harassment Policy Our goal is to build a strong community that offers a comfortable atmosphere for all of our players. This means seeing that players have the ability to combat antisocial behavior Harassment consists of misuse and/or abuse of game mechanics and verbal harassment with the intention of distressing and offending other players. Game mechanics allow players to interact with the world and each other. For example, the ability to block a doorway is a game mechanic. Use of game mechanics like these is by no means considered harassment in and of itself. The key to determining whether the mechanic is being misused or abused is to determine "intent." Reported incidents are not considered harassment until it is determined by the SWTOR CS that it was done to intentionally to cause distress or to offend other players. Harassment is also any behavior that is incessant, inescapable, derogatory and directed specifically at you or your group. Before reporting, a genuine attempt to alleviate the situation should be made by leaving the area or the offending player, or asking them politely to stop. If a sincere attempt has been made to solve the problem and the offending player persists in the behavior, it should be reported. I would say the behavior displayed was in blatant violation of the Rules of Conduct, and appropriate action should involve suspension of accounts, even if as small as 1 day for those who spawn camped in the bases. Which mechanic was misused by empire players with their pvp flag on killing republic players with their pvp flags on? i know the situation, unbalanced team sizes means one side is pushed back into their base. but that's not a game mechanic. We know from things like Huttball that if BW wanted to make the bases instant-death the enemies they could, since they haven't the obvious conclusion is that enemy players can go in there.
Quote: Originally Posted by AlyxDinas Jestunhi's responses might be just about the the most asinine and pigheaded responses I've ever read on a forum.

mufutiz

01.19.2012 , 01:32 PM \| #42	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellod Consequences for Farming Valor There WILL be consequences. The consequence being those people enjoying themselves with some nice easily earned gear.

dbluett

01.19.2012 , 01:38 PM \| #43	Quote
So, since BW did not broadcast a message to stop exploiting and to stop spawn camping its ok I know I'm old but when has any mmo in that ten years let you spawn camp. It is a behavior that should not be tolerated. If you were there (republic or sith ) and you spawn camped in my mind there are only two actions Ban them or Delete all there valor and pvp commendations BW you claim you want to have strong community how about making us, the ones that are paying to play, know how will resolve this.

Venilator

01.19.2012 , 02:17 PM \| #44	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellod Because the game wasn't working as intended when valor farming occurred? They've stated that they intended faction bases to be inaccessible to the opposite faction. Why would you allow the resulting imbalance if the initial problem was an admitted oversight? Wow... You are completely and totally wrong. The devs did not in any shape or form say that players shouldnt be allowed to enter the base until it happened. I am sorry but the idea of people being punished because a fault of the dev team is retarded. If they didn't want players entering other players spawn zones then they should close it off completely.. Just like every other game does it. Punishing empire player for the pathetic offerings of the repub players is just embarrassing.

dbluett

01.19.2012 , 02:34 PM \| #45	Quote
an exploit is an exploit they stated "Our intended design for Ilum Open World PvP is that players are instantly killed when entering the enemy�s base safe area, just like in Warzones" once you figure out that something does to work as intended how is that the devs fault. Report it How did a dev make you spawn camp? In what game world you live in that spawn camping has ever been "ok" the fail is that the game client got overwhelmed and it shows there is major bug that can be exploited with lag

ABRY

01.19.2012 , 04:08 PM \| #46	Quote
I didn't mean because the dev's didn't broadcast a message that it was ok. I meant that the dev's bear some of the blame for letting more and more people fall victim to this behavior by their inaction. I think that the players had to read the rules of conduct before launching the game and agree to them, they should have known that the way they were conducting themselves was against the rules. As such, they should be treated accordingly. Ignorance is not a defense for stupid actions.

rzrknight

01.19.2012 , 04:15 PM \| #47	Quote
Just begin afk farming wz if ya want mate , i do and work. After 1.1 i dont care anymore lol. But i admit , will take longer.
The Lord said: "QQ enough and thou shall receive it." The followers said: "I shall QQ my lord, i shall QQ." And since then , not a single day passed without the QQs being heard.

Fozy

01.19.2012 , 04:17 PM \| #48	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcusElliott Ban them all. Shieet, WoW did it to the gold/pl sellers and buyers. BioWare will lose more subs to not doing anything, than the players abusing and exploiting repeatedly. /agree

Threesixthree

01.19.2012 , 04:19 PM \| #49	Quote
the players are not the ones who should be punished, although a fix for that broken valor is needed, sign this if you agree and let BW know something needs to be done. http://www.change.org/petitions/biow...d-pvp-designer
"Nunca � tarde para abrirmos m�o dos nossos preconceitos."

DimeStax

01.19.2012 , 04:28 PM \| #50	Quote
I think the message they are sending is clear here: If we find an exploit in the game and tell everyone about it and get enough people to do it then nothing will happen. I don't understand how they can ban people for taken advantage of the unlimited commendation in the mail exploit but can't figure out a way to reverse this exploit.

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