Never going to ding 50, 1-49 is Skill based.

I think this is my first post since launch, I banned myself from doing so because there is no point. I have unbanned myself just because it's nice to know that there are intelligent logical people out there like you.

100% agree.

By the way - I have been PvPing since level 10 on both my toons (48 Trooper/46 Jedi Knight). Some days PvP was fun, but over the last 2 weeks I started getting queued vs much better geared 50s. Those were not competitive, so they were not fun. I have also been on the other side, where my team just dominates the other, that also is not fun. Last night I played 5-6 matches, was like 4-2, but more importantly, it was much more fun.

The change they made was stupid the only change they need to make was the failure of the person who gave the low end PVP vendor gear that does not have expertise on it.
I mean come on, if u want PVE gear goto those vendors.

Remove expertise from the game I say.

It is completely unnecessary.

Because frequently nowadays, the time investment gives you something to work toward. This question is like asking, why allow people who have been playing the game for 2 months and hit 50 the ability to do 50 flash points and hardmodes, because they're a more powerful character than someone who just rerolled at 1? That incentive is what keeps the majority of people playing, the prospect of getting more and more powerful. The problem here lies with if the new player can't have fun with their lower amounts of power. This is obviously not true with levelling because they get to play through the content.

But I'm here to argue this is not the case with 50 pvp either. Sure I'm at a disadvantage. I'm at a disadvantage still. But I still have a lot of fun because I'm still competitive, and can still contribute to a winning team very clearly. Do you hate pve gear progression too because someone can do more damage than you because he's put more effort into improving his gear?

And it comes perhaps with the extra satisfaction of knowing that I beat superior geared competition. I guarantee you that I have a win rate at over 50% since hitting 50. This isn't because I'm some kind of godly player, but because all things considered, the WZs will likely be balanced. Sometimes you run against big premades and that sucks (premading is another issue entirely) but sometimes you still even win those games because of a similar premade on your side. Sometimes everyone is ungeared. It all evens out.

At the end of the day, don't be afraid to try. That gear will come quicker than you think, and you might even enjoy your time playing with the slight disadvantage. It'll make you a stronger player.

That 8.75% is actually 17.50% becuase at the same time your attacks are getting 8.75% buffed by the boost, Others are getting their attacks debuffed 8.75% by it.

Totally agree with the OP. PVP on my 34 assassin is a blast right now. Previously it was just a numbers game, as there was no way to take down a geared 50 1v1, so you just had to join in on whoever was being swarmed. Now relative gear level is close enough that you can 1v1 anyone (even 40-49's). This is how it should be. There's room for skill now, not just sprinting to throw your little bucket on the fire.

I understand that Resilience/Expertise were invented primarily to keep raid-geared no-lifers from being untouchable in pvp, but a better solution is a higher bracket for raid-geared or high-expertise players.

Its funny because I think both brackets are way more fun now.

My alts don't get destroyed, and my 50 is now at the centre of really competitive games.

Plus I play republic and we are actually winning 50% of our warzones now and not 1 in 10!

In a number of the late betas the PvP vendors sold 35+ gear that had expertise on it.

Dunno why they removed those. But it was a silly thing to do.

Taking 50s out of your bracket doesn't make it anymore skill based than it was before. It just allows you to be lazy in leveling and gearing whereas at 50 it is a lot less forgiving.

Congratulations on getting the playing field catered to mediocrity. I applaud you.

We should make it so no one higher than 49 can play warzones in my bracket cuz those high levels are so unfair to play with. It's their own fault for leveling so much. Get rid of them and then we can play skill-based games!!!

We should also make it so no one taller than 6' can play basketball in my bracket cuz those tall guys are so unfair to play with. It's their own fault for growing so much. Get rid of them and then we can play skill-based games!

The difference being, of course, that you can level and gear yourself whereas a short person can't make himself grow. But man, those unfair advantages are so unfair. Everyone should be equal at everything!!! Especially when the only difference in the equality is being lazy and not putting in the time to be good. I should be able to be awesome without effort!

Let's remove bolster entirely and see how "skill based" your game is. LOL!

Expertise in its current form is a terrible system. When two people fight wearing PvP gear the expertise of their gear negates every bonus of their expertise EXCEPT the healing bonus....


In truth expertise should be handled like WoW's resilience. The last thing is game needs is more damage... The damage values in PvP are so out of whack it is horrible... Players should not be able to do the crits they are doing in PvP.

This is worse then in Wrath where even the devs thought 5 to 7k crits on people with 30 to 40k hp was too much. swtor has those crits possible on characters with 50 to 65% less hp.