Never going to ding 50, 1-49 is Skill based.

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Never going to ding 50, 1-49 is Skill based.

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iphonemilk

01.19.2012 , 12:32 PM \| #21	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by xxdragonragexx They didn't have 1 million subs either or 2 million people buying their game at launch. Those games cater to a minority of gamers. So why are you in this game and not there? Exactly!!! Umm... were you even around in the gaming industry then? most people didn't even KNOW what an MMO was.. If UO released right now as a FRESH game in this current time period i promise you it would have MAD subs.

XoGooseXo

01.19.2012 , 12:32 PM \| #22	Quote
The only downfall of the 50 bracket is that a lot of people still don't have expertise. So it still calls for lopsided matches and the boring hutball farm while standing in goo to get medals. Ranked matches will fix this. Or some sort of ranking system. Could be LoL style where if you decided to play a ranked game, you are going against other people who know they are playing ranked. or It could be some sort of SC2 system where you and who you play with are given a hidden rating. I think either system would require cross-realm WZ.

JackalDark

01.19.2012 , 12:32 PM \| #23	Quote
That's because MMO's died long ago.

xxdragonragexx

01.19.2012 , 12:32 PM \| #24	Quote
10-49 is a lot of fun but 40-49 players still own. They are not in an equal playing field. It is the same with level 50, you need to pvp for some time or grind some time in order to be in an equal playing field. The opening poster has no clue what he is talking about. Quote: Originally Posted by iphonemilk Umm... were you even around in the gaming industry then? most people didn't even KNOW what an MMO was.. If UO released right now as a FRESH game in this current time period i promise you it would have MAD subs. LMAO!! So why are you still here? Exactly!!!

iphonemilk

01.19.2012 , 12:34 PM \| #25	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aestheticz DAoC also didnt have gear progression because of stat caps. Oh man the good days when MMOs were about real character development through side progression via abilities, story, good pvp and accumulating wealth. Now MMOs are just spreadsheet games where you increase a few numbers over time with gear that will just become obsolete when the level cap increases or they release a new dungeon which is just a palette swap and a copy and paste of previous mechanics... all masquerading as new "content". DAOC was a blast man... HELLA good times in Thidranki 20-24 That's the game I moved too after UO died.. (i should say after EA came in and RUINED it) Now most of the elitist think that gear is what an MMO is and should be... I remember in UO You would just log on and say to yourself.. what Do i feel like doing today? Now it's... What do I NEED to get done today.. what's on my todo list? It's almost like going to work... Sigh.

Kuari

01.19.2012 , 12:35 PM \| #26	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by iphonemilk Ultima Online didn't have gear progression. Ask ANY UO vet how much fun the PvP was before the Trammelites came in and QQ'd and had the Devs ruin the game. Someone obviously never saw high end treasure map gear...
Standards are made to be broken. - Crie - 50 Sniper - Engineer spec - - Kuari - 35 Assassin - Tank spec -

JackalDark

01.19.2012 , 12:35 PM \| #27	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by XoGooseXo The only downfall of the 50 bracket is that a lot of people still don't have expertise. So it still calls for lopsided matches and the boring hutball farm while standing in goo to get medals. Ranked matches will fix this. Or some sort of ranking system. Could be LoL style where if you decided to play a ranked game, you are going against other people who know they are playing ranked. or It could be some sort of SC2 system where you and who you play with are given a hidden rating. I think either system would require cross-realm WZ. Ranked WZ won't prevent Battlemasters rolling fresh 50's because to them it's fun. I won't deny it, if I had no life and had full Battlemaster right now I would totally do it because winning is fun. Since I'm fresh 50 with 2 pieces of champion and Valor 23 I'm probably not even going to bother PvPing other than one WZ a day because I don't find it fun at all when my healer and I both get one shotted by a 4 battlemasters. Healers can't heal through anything they pump out now so it's pointless.

JaxinRiens

01.19.2012 , 12:35 PM \| #28	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by AntiiC I agree completely, pvp pre 50 is immense now. Although I do not have a 50 yet so I cannot comment on how 50 warzones are, they may be just as fun since most 50's have gear to compete equally. 50 warzones are also fun. It is a different type of fun. In a 50 warzone it is more tactical, fights last longer, everyone has all their tools which allows you to get ideas about how your opponents fight in the end. Expertise for a new 50 is a slight problem but it is NOT as big as a sub 50 vs full expertise. The difference is about 15 percent effectiveness vs a full battlemaster, so yeah you may not be able to 1v1 as a non expertise 50 but you can work with a group.
Jaexin Riens :: Drakenus::Caenen Riens:: Daxcen Riens:ycen Riens::Reyla::Licena::Hark'Feyd'Ruatha::Kirynae Riens "Those without power seek to gain it, those with power seek to exploit it,those without want of power are dead." Darth Maladus

Parrothead

01.19.2012 , 12:36 PM \| #29	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by xxdragonragexx LMAO!! So why are you still here? Exactly!!! Because Ultima Online is FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. http://uo.theabyss.eu/images/uo/start/start_b3.jpg Run along now kiddo.

iphonemilk

01.19.2012 , 12:36 PM \| #30	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by xxdragonragexx 10-49 is a lot of fun but 40-49 players still own. They are not in an equal playing field. It is the same with level 50, you need to pvp for some time or grind some time in order to be in an equal playing field. The opening poster has no clue what he is talking about. LMAO!! So why are you still here? Exactly!!! You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. My Sith Assasin is only 34 and I can still killed people in the 40's I didn't say it was perfect either, but it's a HELL of a lot better then playing against 50's who have PvP stats. it's not my fault you can't handle the truth, PvP gear ruins PvP. DEAL WITH IT

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