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1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

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1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

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AwesumPossum
01.19.2012 , 09:30 AM | #241
PVP is a lot closer now without the Battlemasters destroying people. On The Twin Spears the que hasn't even taken a hit, I usually get instant ques or wait max 5 minutes. I'm really enjoying the new bracket.

Too bad about Ilium though, I hope that gets hot fixed soon.
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Cwild
01.19.2012 , 09:31 AM | #242
I only did one warzone last night cause I was tired from work, waited about 15 minutes to get into it and won 4-0 in huttball. I play a level 22 sorc and I went 42-0 led damage, and recieved like 7 medals.



This game is so easy...there are soooooo many awful players.


This patch didnt change much because truth be told most of the 50's were god awful too...

It's just the expertise that even made them challenging.

I full expect to murder everyone when I get off work with my rediculous easy OP class vs all you baddies.

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Nvrdie
01.19.2012 , 09:34 AM | #243
Quote: Originally Posted by TheGremli View Post
The down side is all the non 50's aren't going to learn to PvP, they will learn to PvPish then hit 50 and get schooled all over again.
I could not disagree with you more. Both brackets are PvP'n. Neither is a superior form than the other.

How are pre 50's failing to PvP? How are they gonna get "Schooled" post 50?

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NessusFett
01.19.2012 , 02:27 PM | #244
Quote: Originally Posted by Nvrdie View Post
I could not disagree with you more. Both brackets are PvP'n. Neither is a superior form than the other.

How are pre 50's failing to PvP? How are they gonna get "Schooled" post 50?
think what he means is its going to be a rude awakening from 49 to 50 just hitting the gear wall.

obviously there are bads in both brackets. but even a bad can kill you in the 50's when they have +20% on their damage
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ctacconi
01.19.2012 , 02:29 PM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by mufutiz View Post
amongst all the - justified imo - QQ I just have to say it - lowbie warzones are amazingly fun now.


It will leave a sour taste in the mouth of many having witnessed the travesty of allowing the most dedicated players,those who rushed to 50 first, to farm lowbies in premades all day long, no doubt.
Especially since the number of 50's really rose to levels that destroyed pretty much every single warzone within the last week or two for players playing lowbie alts or just taking their time.
But at least now we have functional PvP pre 50.

So screw-ups aside. Good job Bioware!
enjoy it while it last, don't never ever think of moving from your so wanted low lvl bracket, we got 650 expertise waiting for the the first fresh lvl 50 fool who dare to cross us, have fun while it last.


Quote: Originally Posted by NessusFett View Post
+20% on their damage

u can't reach +20% even with 1000 expertise, QQ more, at 570 expertise u got like 11,30% with a giant diminishing return, more noobs pls.

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mufutiz
01.19.2012 , 02:38 PM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by ctacconi View Post
enjoy it while it last, don't never ever think of moving from your so wanted low lvl bracket, we got 650 expertise waiting for the the first fresh lvl 50 fool who dare to cross us, have fun while it last.
I am amazed how people just assume everyone interested in balanced PvP before endgame must be bad.
Showing true colors here, bro

with a little luck you are in a very decent position gear wise within less than a week of playing. It is really easy in this game (yet impossible for lowbies being matched against 50's ofc)

I am one of those guys who will blow you a kiss when you have that puzzled look on your face asking yourself:

how did that guy kill me? My gear is so shiny and nice??????????

well, you can think about that while waiting in queue!


Also I heard grinding up the gear to compete in endgame is something that has never been a carrot on a stick to be chased in any other game ever before.

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IronFirewind
01.19.2012 , 02:45 PM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by Cowflab View Post
LOL at all the Republic chest thumpers. Here is a fact for you. There are just as many "bad" Pub lowbies as there are "bad" lowbie Imps. Just because you're butt hurt about getting curb stomped for the last few weeks doesn't mean your faction is better overall. Don't worry though, those same meanie battlemaster Imps will get bored with their mains and those that choose to reroll will be back to curb stomping you once again.


TLDR; both factions have bad players, it just so happens that you're now king of the hill because your opposing factions good players have outleveled the bracket. You didn't magically get better over night. The good players are just playing elsewhere for now.
Pretty much this. All the good Imperial PvPers on my server are at 50 and geared. It's pretty much painful to play on an alt so I can play with my friends now.
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NessusFett
01.19.2012 , 02:45 PM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by ctacconi View Post
enjoy it while it last, don't never ever think of moving from your so wanted low lvl bracket, we got 650 expertise waiting for the the first fresh lvl 50 fool who dare to cross us, have fun while it last.





u can't reach +20% even with 1000 expertise, QQ more, at 570 expertise u got like 11,30% with a giant diminishing return, more noobs pls.

/facepalm

if you are doing 110% ( from damage boost) and im doing 90% (from damage reduction) how much of a damage advantage is that?

more math noob plz.
ktnxbai


seriously, we have to be rude about something you are wrong about?
oh wait. he just came to a pre-50 thread just to talk **** to lowbies

obvious troll is obvious

but big man knows exactly what percentage he can get
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ActionAce
01.19.2012 , 02:59 PM | #249
Imps are priceless.

Abosolutely priceless.

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CommandoPower
01.20.2012 , 02:22 AM | #250
Quote: Originally Posted by Mackuss View Post
TOTALLY agree with your part about crafting. Crafting is utterly useless right now. And kind of is in very game.

Think of how the economies would be, and respect for those individuals who toughed it out, if crafting made, hands down, second to best gear in the game, and then on par gear with end game raid drops, but it took a LOT of reagants.
It's useless at 50. My fully blued lowbies with purple weapons smash face in WZ's . Top tier (purp) crafted gear is better than the PVP gear. The second tier (blues) is pretty much equivalent.


That being said, PVP gear really needs to be available every 5 levels. Every 10 levels minimum. AND....separate the level gear out via tabs or something. You did it for trainable skills, do it for buyable gear.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
Well if there is no expertise, then people will be complaining about the guy in full Rakata gear owning people in PvP. After all, that gear is still way better than anything anyone under level 50 could possibly have.
That's easily enough handled just by giving bolster a cap on stats. IE an if X stat = Y then X stat = Z. PVP stats are just enforced grinding and E-peen feeding. With a cap on stats in WZ it doesn't matter WHAT gear they bring in, they cannot be above a certain level.

If your worried about people maxing ALL stats, then you just have to take a function that calculates the total relative value of all stats and then caps the total. If you went over then it reduces your stats by the % you went over.


THIS kind of problem solving is why gamers, programmers, and technicians should be making the calls on balancing and gear instead of some corporate fat cat looking for 3 months longer subscriptions. Make a good game and people will stay, don't chinch out and try and drag out their sub, you'll lose as many people as you keep. Unless your WOW, in which case nobody is smart enough to care for 3 expansions because it feeds their E-peen.
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