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1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

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1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

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Efir
01.19.2012 , 08:01 AM | #221
Well done Bioware.

WZ's are a lot more fun again, as they were in the first week.

Everyone now levels 10-49 can play an important part of any battle.

Ive not noticed any difference in Q times. Legions of Lettow server, rolling as republic.

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Zaodon
01.19.2012 , 08:01 AM | #222
This change is definitely a good thing.

I recorded queue wait times BEFORE patch 1.1 (I got 50 data points, *excluding* "instant" WZs when someone quits and you get an instapop invite) and the average wait was just over 6 minutes.

So far, I have only recorded 10 wait times since 1.1 (also excluding instapops), but the queue wait times haven't gone up very much on average, now around 10 minutes or so (but only 10 data points, so its apples to oranges until I get at least 40 more data points).

Its definitely fun stomping the Imps. I knew they all sucked (on my server), but the level 50s rolling us over hid that fact. Now that there are no 50s to carry them, they are losing just about every match I play. I went from dozens of deaths per WZ, to 0 (multiple "Invincibles","Indestructibles", etc.) and dominating them.

The only problem left in WZs is the bots and/or AFKers. WZ leaders need the ability to /kick.

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SoulAssassins
01.19.2012 , 08:06 AM | #223
They made the game more fun for <50 people and ****ed over the >50 people. And to be honest. everyone who is lvl 50 already could use a break from this game. So great patch!

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Sytha
01.19.2012 , 08:07 AM | #224
Just want to say how enjoyable PVP is now!!!! It's so so so so so much better!!! Thanks again for the patch!!! Awesome job guys at bioware, Lucas arts etc, thanks again

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PlagaNerezza
01.19.2012 , 08:16 AM | #225
Open world pvp on a game that is imbalanced will always be an issue. The fact that it can be exploited by base camping is so obvious that anyone who didn't forsee it should probably not be making the decisions on pvp.

The warzones where more fun, although, I enjoyed them before. They probably need 48-50 to help out the 50's get more matches.

Now something needs to be done about the lightning/dirtthrowing effect creating lag and the stealth unbreakable chain dps attack of operatives.

So far this patch has created significant UI issues for me. The cool downs of the specials is awful. The UI now locks to mouse clicks in almost every combat scenerio where I try and use keys and mouse to get off specials.

The animation lag got worse not better. I am not even sure things are going off. The UI doesn't keep up at all. So it fixed 1 issue and created about 3 bugs for me.

The UI needs to be fixed. The special animation needs to be fixed. The stupidity of having alacrity and then forcing you to wait for an animation to finish start is beyond my understanding. The entire notion of instant cast things having to waiting for animations to start/stop is crazy. Its a hidden cast time.

They need to fix the UI and specials. Worrying about Ilum pvp being more engaging? What was that anyways? That was 2% of the playerbase whining.

So they tried to fix it only to create sploiter heaven.

Very dissappointed. Although Alderaan was fun last night. Got some ganking in while all the 50's where off grinding expertise.
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mufutiz
01.19.2012 , 08:20 AM | #226
Quote: Originally Posted by Pappus View Post
I rushed to 50, went for BM and started a twink. I PvP'ed on him and I had a good time even against full team of 50's.

You peeps play like garbage to begin with so playing against a level 50 is like conquering a land with a knife to you.

In the meanwhile I cannot play PvP with my friends below 50.
awwww poor guy.

keep telling yourself that, just don't start crying when the "garbage" people hit 50, gear up and roll wannabes like you all day and night with their friends in the 50 bracket.
you know it's going to happen.

here have a cookie


Quote: Originally Posted by Dabrixmgp View Post
Cant win anything now. Only way we stood a chance before was having level 50s. We now have a longer queue just to lose more that makes no sense at all. Where exactly is the positive in this change?
Games just aren't fun if you have to pull your weight and can't get carried to victory by a bunch of 50's destroying the enemy lowbie team, right?

You have my sympathies...


Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
The level 50s in Champion+ gear that 3 shot you when you're level 10-49 will still pretty much 3 shot a fresh 12K level 50. Just getting that one extra level doesn't turn things around. There's really no effective defense against Champion gear that doesn't involve Champion gear (or BM gear).
You're absolutely right. However that is perfectly normal. When you hit endgame and are a latecomer you man up and grind it through, no way around that.
And that's the essence of PvP progression gear-wise. At 50 that's your carrot on the stick.

As a lowbie - you just want to have fun and get comfortable with your character in a PvP environment. You have all the time in the world as a 50 to catch up with the better geared players and their gear will not save them once you caught up.


Quote: Originally Posted by Nethershadow View Post
I love all the crying 50s that are popping in here to complain about ques or how bad the non 50 players are for not being able to fight a geared 50 and win....
It's GLORIOUS. Only thing more enjoyable will be putting them in their place in the 50 brackets.

It's also hilarious how 100% of them are Imperials.
While it's not hard to imagine bad players enjoying the previous broken state of PvP more (since they don't play for the experience of PvPing itself, they just want to win and grind their gear)

Quote: Originally Posted by Dabrixmgp View Post
I guess if your idea of fun is a 15 min queue
my idea of fun is instant invites 24/7. That's why I am playing Republic.

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Yogurta
01.19.2012 , 08:39 AM | #227
I resubbed again just because of low lvl PVP. It's very good now.
I'll give this game another month and no more, unless they fix Warzone FPS issues.

Anyway, to Republic players saying that Empire players won beacuse of lvl 50's is absurd. You forget that we (Empire) played Huttball against each other most of the time. On rare occasions that we've played against the Republic, those guys were very well geared (e.g. 21k Jedi Guardians, I kid you not).

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mufutiz
01.19.2012 , 08:48 AM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
Its definitely fun stomping the Imps. I knew they all sucked (on my server), but the level 50s rolling us over hid that fact. Now that there are no 50s to carry them, they are losing just about every match I play. I went from dozens of deaths per WZ, to 0 (multiple "Invincibles","Indestructibles", etc.) and dominating them.
Exactly the same on my server. At 50 and in the lowbie brackets.
Previously all the good 50 Reps were dragged down by a statistically much higher amount of lowbies on Republic side that simply couldn't make a difference against the statistically much more prominent 50 population on Empire side. The average level is still much lower now but easily compensated by being flat out better players.

And same goes for 50, the Imps do have the gear advantage right now but they can't just brute force their way to victory, they face a full team of equal players.
And waiting queues for Imps... yeah a very good thing imo, people need incentive to roll Republic, it would be great to get decent world PvP going on all servers.. have my doubts about that but we'll see.

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Sodalazer
01.19.2012 , 08:51 AM | #229
just reporting in.

now that empire side dont have their epic geared 50 premade bads, carrying the entire team against a team of republic that have like 1 50 while imp got 8.

playing as republic iv'e won 17/18 matches.

and not just won em, it was crushing victories.

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mufutiz
01.19.2012 , 08:56 AM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by Sodalazer View Post

playing as republic iv'e won 17/18 matches.
The imp lowbies never had to learn to play. they just had to tag an enemy and let their 50's roflstomp him. It is undoubtedly a rude awakening for them now.

And the 50's have to wait longer now just to suddenly find real enemies instead of the free com donors they are used to. One of the few good days to play on the Republic side. But enjoy it while it lasts, you never know what the devs have in store to"fix" it, beyond more same faction WZs