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1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

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1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

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Kemorand
01.19.2012 , 03:32 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
The level 50s in Champion+ gear that 3 shot you when you're level 10-49 will still pretty much 3 shot a fresh 12K level 50. Just getting that one extra level doesn't turn things around. There's really no effective defense against Champion gear that doesn't involve Champion gear (or BM gear). I think it might be a good idea if they do some kind of gear score and put level 50 below certain gear score in the 10-49 bracket, because I estimate below around 13K HP (for non tanks), you simply get crushed by Champion+ level characters in the 50s bracket as if you're a level 10.
The thing is, you can grab some of the 50 gear even if you're not 50 and/or have the WZ/MERC comms ready for it. Heck, on current toon I'm 42 and already ready to gear up at 50.

If you do WZ as you level, you will get some of what you need later on. Not AS much, but enough to get you started. Also, you will be with other 50s (in your team and enemies) and nothing else so everyone will have all their talents and access to top gear.

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greennight
01.19.2012 , 03:34 AM | #162
+ for bioware
WZ are now much fun and i think that on our server even more people are joining WZ than before.
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batnam
01.19.2012 , 04:18 AM | #163
I guess I have mixed feelings regarding the opinions on this thread. I started pvp when I reached 50, so the trials discussed here weren't as much of a hurdle for me. However, from the descriptions of sheer elation on this thread regarding lower bracket pvp, I am convinced that its probably time to create an alt to get any real sense of fun out of the game whether in pve or pvp.

There is not much in the ways of unique endgame content or gear incentive after you complete the flashpoint and operations once thru for story. Now after completing hard mode ops, I don't really feel excited to pursue nightmare mode content. The extremely small increase in gear rating and stats for loot doesn't merit any desire to pursue harder versions of the same fights again and again.

Unfortunately, level 50 pvp is just as boring with the creation of a still relatively small 50s only pvp bracket. Even the painstakingly long valor grind I participated in up to rank 48 to try and reach battlemaster (rank 60) seems worthless in pursuing now considering the gear isn't that much of an upgrade over champion level gear anyway...especially when you are forced to fight long queues, the same people, and an even longer/harder grind now in warzones.

I actually enjoyed that the bolster mechanic allowed my brother and I to play together despite the disparity of levels between us when he rerolled BH. This way, he didn't face the same pve leveling process and I could still push thru pve content on my main...but we could always pvp together.

I personally feel the core complaint here has more to do with the expertise stat being too strong and the bolster mechanism being too weak. Maybe the game would have been better served by tweaking that than rushing to separate out brackets as in the WoW model. I think the game lost some uniqueness with this stereotypical division as the pvp experience was more centered around medals rather than number of kills.

Anyway, I am glad that everyone had fun and I will probably join in on it as soon as I make that alt.

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Halefthaut
01.19.2012 , 05:13 AM | #164
I didnt read the whole thread but there is no 1-49 bracket. Its 10-49...

Sorry for being unconstructive


PD: I love PvP now im affraid to get to 50 too soon (41 jugg)

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Amelyssan
01.19.2012 , 05:17 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Evuke View Post
amen, everyone would stay 49 forever to avoid all the invincible d-bags at 50 in battlemaster gear
so youre namecalling a dedicated/skilled player because a system was badly implemented?


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art-media
01.19.2012 , 05:18 AM | #166
yeah very good move pvp warzones are finally fun again

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dannythefool
01.19.2012 , 05:27 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Sznur View Post
Too bad they increased prices for pre lvl 50 pvp gear by 75% and failed to mention that in the patch notes.
To be fair, it was way too easy to get that gear. I've done this one several toons: Level up to 16, then play warzones until 20 to get full level 20 pvp gear that would last until level 30 or so. Level up to 36-38 or so, play warzones until 40 to get full level 40 pvp gear that would last until 50 since most of the level 40 stuff is upgradeable. Spend extra commendations on higher level weapons and rip out the expertise enhancements. It's probably a good thing if it's not quite that easy anymore seeing as how the 20 and 40 gear still more or less beats everything you get from doing the story.

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Sznur
01.19.2012 , 05:31 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by dannythefool View Post
To be fair, it was way too easy to get that gear. I've done this one several toons: Level up to 16, then play warzones until 20 to get full level 20 pvp gear that would last until level 30 or so. Level up to 36-38 or so, play warzones until 40 to get full level 40 pvp gear that would last until 50 since most of the level 40 stuff is upgradeable. Spend extra commendations on higher level weapons and rip out the expertise enhancements. It's probably a good thing if it's not quite that easy anymore seeing as how the 20 and 40 gear still more or less beats everything you get from doing the story.
Its extremely easy to get geared at level cap, yet gearing while leveling needs to be a chore ? And my main problem is there was no mention in patch notes about that.
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Razot
01.19.2012 , 05:35 AM | #169
Its not the level..

Its the expertise that is fail.

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MMOgamer
01.19.2012 , 05:38 AM | #170
Agreed, I had way more fun in the lower bracket today.