1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

This is just faulty logic that goes back to the days when the best gear you could get was raid gear. We learned then that no skill + good gear = facerolling in pvp. Somehow we have turned this around to say PVP gear must have some special PVP stat to prevent this. The way to prevent it is to have both PVE and PVP gear stats the same! Then it wont matter if you spend your time pvp'ing, and someone else pve's. You will have the same gear given the same ammount of grinding. If you get facerolled by a someone in the same gear whether they earned it by PVE or PVP, guess what? They're more skilled than you and they deserved the win.

I hate the idea of random loot gear being better anyway. I think crafted gear should always be better than loot gear, otherwise, whats the point of crafting?

It is really really sad that I have more fun PVP'ing in a warzone now, with my level 26 trooper, then I did when I was leveling my main. This is how pvp should have been to begin with, without all this expertise crap.

That's exactly right. Think of it as just multiplying all the stats by a factor determined by the difference between your level and level 50. So if you don't upgrade your gear, then on each level up, your warzone stats go down a little. If you do use gear appropriate to your level then you get stats you can reasonably expect to have once you actually do reach 50. I've played warzones on almost every level on two of my characters now, and bolster seems to work fairly well. Of course, it doesn't help with skills you don't have yet at lower levels, and it doesn't help with gear advantage beyond standard level 50 gear.

People like you will never be satisfied, your a fault finder and that's what you do best.

It's funny that the guys who say it isn't about gear always want to pvp in the best gear.

Anyways, got in 5 or 6 games today and it was much better. My death rate was easily cut in half, probably more. I was ok with 50's, and could deal with it, kind of, but there were times were it was a one-shot fest no matter what I did. Great decision changing this.

On it sucking at 50, well, that you can deal with. If you have a heal tree, spec it and toss out heals. Or, spec into your tank tree. You get more survival, contribute, and a few pieces of gear later it's done. Having to level into this, especially for those of us going slow, was just brutal.

I found the 10 to 49 brackets absolutely fantastic yesterday. Yes they do pop a bit slower but I don't mind getting a bit of PvE in here and there.

To be honest, having to pvp my way up from 10 to my current level against well geared lvl 50s was a positive aspect for me (my valor rank always equals my pve lvl). As frustrating as it was to play against lvl 50 premades (looking at you Death Squad and Kalma) and being focused down in seconds, it tought me how to move and how to protect myself as a healer. It's much easier for me now to play in our own brackets since I learned the hard way. So in that respect I am kinda glad we had mixed brackets for a while.

For the indiviuals in this thread shouting against lowbie levels: Do you even know how the buff works? I topped healing even during low levels quite a few times. As others have pointed out, the closer your gear is to your actual level the more you benefit from the buff (very simplified explanation here but true nevertheless). With the exception of not having sprint until lvl 14 everyone, no matter what level, can make a great contribution since the whole expertise difference is cut out from the 10 to 49 brackets now.

TOTALLY agree with your part about crafting. Crafting is utterly useless right now. And kind of is in very game.

Think of how the economies would be, and respect for those individuals who toughed it out, if crafting made, hands down, second to best gear in the game, and then on par gear with end game raid drops, but it took a LOT of reagants.

Well if there is no expertise, then people will be complaining about the guy in full Rakata gear owning people in PvP. After all, that gear is still way better than anything anyone under level 50 could possibly have.

Believe it or not but i even had fun on Ilum, it was amazing to see so many people constantly fighting, even the low fps issues didn't bother me, even though it was annoying, i started to feel bad for the Republic though, they have some good players but could do nothing because they are heavily outnumbered, oh well, patch tomorrow is going to fix it anyway...

Agreed, although by the sound of things level 50 PvP warzones are every bit as bad as they were in Rift. I don't know how to fix the new issue, but the low level warzones are much more fun again, especially if you're stuck pugging for any reason.

Nothing to add but thought this needed better than a 3 star thread rating.