1-49 Warzones are AMAZING now

That is not true. Lv 10+ might still lose by quite abit, but the 20s and 30s can match them if you know what you're doing.

Cant win anything now. Only way we stood a chance before was having level 50s. We now have a longer queue just to lose more that makes no sense at all. Where exactly is the positive in this change?

The difference between 49 and geared 50 is like day and night. I'd be happy with more brackets of course, but the level 50 one was by far the most needed one.

Of the warzones I played yesterday, we only lost two or three. I am not sure what made more of a difference, the lack of 50s on the other team or the lack of 50s on our team that insta-leave after the first cap. :P

No, actually I'm pretty sure it's the former. Even those that we lost felt like they were at least fair, even that one Huttball match where nobody on my team seemed to know what was going on. I can usually tell why my side loses (or wins) a warzone, and it's nice that "geared level 50s that need 4-5 lowbies to even only hold down" is no longer significant.

You mean, you actually now have to play well and not just leech the match where 50s did all the job ? oh the tragedy...

I agree. I rerolled and now I'm getting so much more enjoyment out of warzones. I felt pretty good about warzones even with the geared 50s in them, for the most part, because I didn't feel like I stood no chance whatsoever... but some matches were totally out of hand when I was literally the only non-50 in the match. Now it feels much more balanced on a much more consistent basis. Bioware did well to bracket it from 10-49 and at 50. I would have hated to see 10-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49. I think that would have ruined it for me.

By the way... ^^^ THIS ^^^

lol.

I was doing decent in pvp on my mid-20s shadow. I think I've got a good pvp build that suits how I play, but damn am I lovin' this new tier system. Played six matches tonight, and was on top of my team every single match. I've heard the rational explanation as to why expertise gear exists (to stop casual pve'ers in crazy raid gear from showing up and owning experienced pvpers), but I gotta say, the amount of fun this 10-49 tier is demonstrates how lame RPG style gear fishing is in what amounts to an online sport. It's like grinding away for the right to use steroids. Just set a stat, hp, and ac cap so any casual joiners who happen to be wearing the Porche of armor sets can't stomp the regular enthusiasts. This thread has made me realize I'm not the only one who would rather COMPETE, and that the normal story/raid world is for those that like the rush of aquiring better and better gear, and that's why I dig pvp.

After a number of games today, I found both the 10-49 and the 50 brackets more fun than they were. Played on my 50 sentinel (rank 58 valor) and 30 commando healer.

I still think bolster could use a slight buff in the 10-49 bracket at the lower end... 10-15ish is still pretty squishy all things considered.

At the 50 end, I really wish there wasn't such a gap between fresh 50's and people like me. I get that better gear makes you stronger, but it's a little sad that in a 2v1 I can usually drop both 50's if they're relatively fresh.



...that said, in the grand scheme of things, all the games felt much more even, and revolved a lot more around tactics/skill than they did before. I'd like to see some tweaks moving forward, but for now PvP is at least fun/competitive again.

Bolster works fine. You just have to have gear close to your level. Ie, if you are 30, and have 20 gear, you will get worse stats than someone on lvl 20 with lvl 20 gear. At least that is my experience.

15 or so games I had today in the 10-49 bracket was much more enjoyable. Not that I disliked it before hand either.