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[POLL] Do you think a Rollback is necessary?

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[POLL] Do you think a Rollback is necessary?

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Raencloud
01.18.2012 , 11:54 PM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by warkat View Post
every server had republic pinned down getting farmed at respawn so imps spent the whole day farming honor that the dev's intended to have turrets that one shot people like they do in wgz if they go that far into the base...nothing is fine with that sorry brah but i know ur imp and u need to be carried to gear/ranks.
Nice assumption, but I was at work for most of the day. I made it out to Ilum at around 6:30 cst, and managed to get roughly 15k or so in 1.5 hours. I was already valor rank 51 before today, and I'm going to bed 70% through valor rank 52. We were not killing the turret, or camping the drop point - we were at Republic Base though, having a stand off just outside the turret range. By around 8 cst, 90% of the Republic left and after an hour or so of running around Ilum looking for what small groups of Republic remained, we went back to running WZs.

Again, farming requires opposing faction members to continuously taxi in to be killed. It is not BioWare's fault is hundreds of Republic sat there dieing for 8 hours to allow the Imperials to farm this Valor. Furthermore, even if they did, the valor would come in bunches. Due to DRs, if the same players were dieing over and over again, they wouldn't even aware valor to the imperials camping them.

You are whining about population imbalance, not the pvp system.

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CommandoPower
01.18.2012 , 11:57 PM | #152
So ya, I voted roll back .
I have faith in Bioware and Mythic to deliver a good game. I have more faith in myself to decide in an unbiased fashion whether or not it is good. Neither has any impact on the fact that I will kill you.

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Senefera
01.18.2012 , 11:59 PM | #153


I'd give 50 if I could.
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Blackspiral
01.19.2012 , 12:01 AM | #154
Suddenly stars, stars everywhere!

Take all these stars!

It's dangerous to go alone-here, take these stars!

...Many Stars, left side!

You get my drift?

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Senefera
01.19.2012 , 12:02 AM | #155
Forgot to vote.
Duh.
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DanTheMn
01.19.2012 , 12:04 AM | #156
*****

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Sent
01.19.2012 , 12:04 AM | #157
5 STARS


I'm I the only one who notices all the bugs are favorable to imps?

The bug where in Alderaan civil war the imps turret ticks first even if republic is holding 2 turrets and controlling them before the imps. Or that imps sorc/assassin has insta cast that does damage and doesn't wait on delay of animation. That republic +10 datacron is bugged for specific body types (bugs character through wall).

Then this broken Illum system comes out, and it just so happens that on 80% of the servers Imps population is much larger than Republic. So now they all get free battlemaster.

Btw I play both Imp and Republic.
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mufutiz
01.19.2012 , 12:05 AM | #158
needed is a strong word.

Complete database rollback is definitely not fair though. You can't punish everyone who did not participate in the exploit at the same time.

A valor reset would be the right thing to do but it will not happen. PvP is just a side dish in this game unfortunately. I have accepted that now and it makes it easier to stomach things like this and the hard pills we will most definitely have to swallow in the months to come.

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mufutiz
01.19.2012 , 12:06 AM | #159
forgot to rate

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Cinnaminson
01.19.2012 , 12:08 AM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by Raencloud View Post
Nice assumption, but I was at work for most of the day. I made it out to Ilum at around 6:30 cst, and managed to get roughly 15k or so in 1.5 hours. I was already valor rank 51 before today, and I'm going to bed 70% through valor rank 52. We were not killing the turret, or camping the drop point - we were at Republic Base though, having a stand off just outside the turret range. By around 8 cst, 90% of the Republic left and after an hour or so of running around Ilum looking for what small groups of Republic remained, we went back to running WZs.

Again, farming requires opposing faction members to continuously taxi in to be killed. It is not BioWare's fault is hundreds of Republic sat there dieing for 8 hours to allow the Imperials to farm this Valor. Furthermore, even if they did, the valor would come in bunches. Due to DRs, if the same players were dieing over and over again, they wouldn't even aware valor to the imperials camping them.

You are whining about population imbalance, not the pvp system.
I am a battlemaster sage healer on Death Wind Corridor. Let me tell you about my experience. Unlike some of the horror stories from republic (available on screen shots and youtube videos), Death Wind Corridor was not as bad. Sith didn't spawn camp us. We had a group of 25 or so players. Sounds pretty good right? Solid ops group, organization. Except we could not move away from our base. Meaning, we didn't have control of points, our valor farm was far worse than the valor farm available to Sith (having greater bonuses). This wasn't because we weren't as good players, it was because we were just outnumbered.

But okay, everyone was able to do their dailies get some valor. Great. Not the worst situation. My only concern with this is, it took me about 60 hours from 50-60, I had not problem with that, I had a goal and I grinded it out. From streams and friends on Sith side, we learned that Sith was able to reach battlemaster far far faster than was available than day before. Instead of being measured in days, the ability to rank up valor was now measured in hours.

The gear available to battlemasters is well, better than champion. This has further impacts on future pvp, warzones and Ilum. The reason I want a rollback is so that no one group gained an unfair advantage over another. Something that happened not because of skill, but because of numbers.

Please not that by the time you logged on, much of the damage had already been done, and soon afterwards Bioware released a comment disabling taxiing. Btw, 15k per hour is insane. My valor per hour when grinding to battlemaster was about 4-5k. I hope there's a rollback to make the grind at least a bit more similar and the future pvp on an equal footing.

Cinn, Jedi Sage Healer, Death Wind Corridor