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Update on Ilum Open World PvP issues

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Update on Ilum Open World PvP issues
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Al_Sparagus's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:23 PM | #971
As a republic PvP player I hope all you crybabys unsub. More imps for me to kill.

Jumajin's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:23 PM | #972
Quote: Originally Posted by Utrru View Post mistake and yall jump ship? ****** player, you are.

Cmon guys...get your heads out your asses.
We did. We took our money from them.

doctorfirepants's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:23 PM | #973
Quote: Originally Posted by Loekii View Post
I think a lot of people that are unsubbing, are doing so because this is just a giant last straw.

The arrogance in BW's responses in this thread, just further demonstrate what the future will be like in this game. It will never be BW's fault, and players will always be the problem -- but be sure to keep sending in your monthly payment to BW.

Imo, people that are not happy with BW, should cancel -- even if for a short time. Voting with your wallet is the most effective way to get the message across.

How is this a giant last straw. Seriously people, the game is barely a month old. I mean, do you really have that lil patience. I've played a lot of MMO's in my time. In no way did I ever expect this game to be perfect or even close to it at launch. players exploited a fault in the system today. Republican players who repeatedly fed those taking advantage of it, your as much to blame as bioware is. You see a problem, remove yourself from it until it is fixed. Simple as that. You cry more than my five year old nephew. All of you crying about canceling, the community here will be much better off without you. For those of you who understand MMO's are under constant development, I look forward to sharing this game with you for some time.

Dinams's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:23 PM | #974
Said the imperial

GrimNoirion's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:23 PM | #975
And the rule of the Sith Begins.......See ya Republic!

GoldSquadGirl's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:23 PM | #976
Quote: Originally Posted by SoupyNuggs View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by GoldSquadGirl View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by MyThLoSt View Post
LOL at all the peop who say they are quitting because of this. I have seen far far worse in the beginning of about every mmo i have ever played its like you guys have never played a new mmo ever in your life.

Same here, there isn't even any kind of PVP death penalty in this game. I've had bugs in another game that cost me a week of day and night grinding in lost XP, and I've been in PVP fights that cost me everything of value I owned.

When I unsub, it will be because I'm falling asleep at the keyboard doing PVP with no real stakes and no reason for my faction to band together to fight the imps.

(By real stakes I do not mean battlemaster gear or biotech stims lol)

200 imps beating my bunz in every couple of seconds forcing a respawn? No problem.
Exactly, so by your sentiment, why would it be that big of a deal to rollback the valor gains? Look at the last 80+ pages of people who are cancelling their subs. If your whole argument here is that "other games wasted less of my time", then by all rationality we can implement a rollback, and everyone's happy.
Wasn't an argument. Was just sharing a friendly "LOL" with MyThLoSt at all the apocalyptic crying.

Quote: Originally Posted by SoupyNuggs View Post
Take note, Gabe, GoldSquadGirl supports a rollback, and she's not unsubbing either way.
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KidGlove's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:24 PM | #977
How can they ignore the real problem. They mention nothing about the unbalance between Imps and Republic. And now they are letting all these Imps who exploited a bug keep there easy Valor!? No thanks. As if regular PvP wasnt unfair enough.


TheRealBrave's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:24 PM | #978
Quote: Originally Posted by Leekae View Post
You know what the most sickening joke of all of this is?

They are letting the people who are farming there now, even after they recognized it was a huge mistake, stay there!

Not only that, but for all of you people that didn't go there and do your thing, you can't go now. That's just the kind of brainless thought process that a dead horse game designer would have.

If they offered the people who bought Collector's editions to go to Ilum just for an hour tonight, imagine how many more copies they would have sold! LMAO!

But the worst of it really is, in their official response not only did they have the nerve to mention that "republic players may have been doing it, but they had the gaul to mention them in the sentence BEFORE the imperials. Give me a freaking break!

Show me one picture of republic players zerging the imperial base spawn point and I'll gladly keep paying you. Trust me, I have PLENTY of the imperials doing it along with fraps footage as well.
You sound like you're just figuring out that Bioware favors Empire. It's been known since early in development.

Sift's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:24 PM | #979
By my own admission, I am not the best PvPer in the world. My preferred style of gameplay is hammering as many number keys as I can in the shortest time available, while ignoring any notion of a global cool down. I'd probably be better off sticking to one ability and blaster whipping everyone to death, to be honest. Nevertheless, I continue to play, bolstered by my guildies and leeching death blows, when I can, from the vastly more skilled allies that are unfortunate enough to be in a warzone with me.

As only level 50 players will be flung together in war zones now, I find it slightly worrying that a large subset of the Imperial population on my server will now be far nearer BattleMaster than the Republic faction and hence may be blessed with kit far superior to my own. I'm wondering if it's even worth me poking my head round the virtual door of a warzone, for fear of having it instantly removed from my shoulders by the first mighty Imp who deems it appropriate that I am worthy to die by whatever skill first comes into reach of a liesurely digit.

I am quite surprised that Bioware have not already taken the bold decision to completely undo the events brought about by the latest patch. The longer term considerations of having either side effectively powerlevelled at over 500 valor per minute (I have seen the screenshots to prove this, although it has already disappeared from Imageshack) don't paint a pretty picture for a healthy PvP future.

Of course, it is quite reasonable to suggest that this entire situation is the fault of the player population. I completely agree that each and every one of the people who willfully benefited from this unforeseeable, unlikely exploit of a perfectly designed PvP arena should possibly be burnt at the stake or should at least suffer a public flogging. After all, if I left an inexhaustible bucket of money unguarded in the street and people kept coming to take it, I would also proclaim that this is not how I intended my bucket to be used and that they should stop. However, I would only deliver my proclamation after they had taken my money for over 6 hours and potentially put my country's economy into crisis.

To be serious for a moment, the damage has been done so I guess it's either time to: suck it up, admit the slight faux pas and rollback or leave it as is and deal with the after effects, for which I won't bother to speculate because it's all subjective anyway.

Tough call. I hope you take the decision to back out the patch and the player progression since and I hope that the player population can recognise that leaving the situation as is may have the potential to ruin the game for everyone in the (not so) long run.

Note to self: faith is a good thing but ultimately requires that you deliver up front. Ensure that you only commit your faith in monthly terms, instead of 6 months, in future

Abriael's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 08:24 PM | #980
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to be clear and let you all know that we’re definitely aware of individuals who took extreme advantage of this situation and we will be carefully evaluating and taking action as necessary.
Get through your thick head that this is the only realistic solution that they can implement. If you think they can punish hundreds of thousands of players that got their progression legitimately in the whole game today in order to roll back the few hundreds that got it by exploiting, you must be the most delusional creature on the planet.

People at level 50 fighting it out on Ilum are the vast minority compared to the vast majority of the playerbase that isn't even near to get there.

Demanding for them to completely void the progression of the vast majority in order to hit the vast minority is ludicrous. The only thing you should be asking for is exactly what they promise, for those in that vast minority to be pinpointed and adressed individually.

There's no other solution in the realm of realism. Simple as that.