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Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion

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Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion
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Virre
01.18.2012 , 06:05 PM | #2561
Quote: Originally Posted by Dinams View Post
Get back your valor farming quickly!
Before they change it and all your friends become l33t and you not
I'm a rep player
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Naa'm Da'kari

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Pistols
01.18.2012 , 06:05 PM | #2562
Quote: Originally Posted by carbocat View Post
you 50`s farmed lowbies for easy valor since game release, and lnow its whing because those after you get easy valor...hypecrate
People PvP'd on their way UP to 50...so they earned their Valor like anyone else. How can anyone post something so stupid. =/

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Reruro
01.18.2012 , 06:05 PM | #2563
Quote: Originally Posted by thriftstorewar View Post
No, I promise you that I haven't lost anything as the Imperials have gained Valor. And "wide-reaching" is a misnomer for "specific yet frustrating to me."
Maybe you don't "get" PvP yet.

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The_Reverend
01.18.2012 , 06:05 PM | #2564
Quote: Originally Posted by Beakertanks View Post
I keep reading this thread for two reasons.

1. I am really angry with Ilum.

2. I am stunned at how absolutely silent BW is. It's fascinating in grotesque sort of way.
I'm with you, everyone who's been farmed knows its a problem, but its the lack of a response thats really annoying people.

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xtops
01.18.2012 , 06:06 PM | #2565
"We have some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world on this team. "
(http://www.swtor.com/blog/what%E2%80...t-old-republic)


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

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Vlacke
01.18.2012 , 06:06 PM | #2566
Quote: Originally Posted by Esrac View Post
What do you expect?

Actually, this is a great example of what I was talking about earlier. When Faction Imbalance is allowed to get so out of control, such as Empire players massively outnumbering Republic players, this kind of thing stops happening. Some Republic players reroll Empire for easier pvp and grouping because of higher numbers, some Republic players realize they're massively gimped in PvP and stop participating, and others just quit out of frustration.

As such, I propose drastic balancing measures be taken. Ideas:

1. Institute caps on character creation on imbalanced servers. If the imbalance reached 2:1, prevent any more characters from being made for the higher-populated faction on that server until the balance improves. To prevent the Imperials from making a bunch of level 1 Republic characters to manipulate the balance, base the balance on the number of level 50 characters on that server.

2. Merge high-Republic servers (like those exist) with less balanced servers.

3. Move players or entire guilds from one server to another.

4. Provide more positive endorsement and advertising for Republic. Why endorse the Empire with a Darth Malgus statue in the CE, with no Shatele Shan option for Republic players. That was pretty messed up and shows obvious bias.
I think that beside the statue all Empire classes should as of now have force lightning, it's unfair to the rest of them to not be able to scream unlimited poweaaaah, Sidious style

Joke aside, i have to say again that you are COMPLETELY right.

This thread is just eating posts....

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DarthHerodias
01.18.2012 , 06:06 PM | #2567
My guild has about 12 active members always on, all we did was PvP 80% of the time. 3 members who had just gotten Valor to 60 in the last week or so have just cancelled their subs. Im at Valor 55 and i am imperial, i refuse to do anything on Ilum because of what it is today.
We out number the republic 4-1 on my PvE server, but everyone got their missions done (both sides) and seen a bit of action if you were at the right time and place. Now its a zerg fest and i am grouped up with people i would rather have nothing to do with just to get a quest done.
I should be able to log and get most of my dailies done in a hour or so by myself. If you want to put me in a 8-16 man ops group when i enter the battlefield so be it. But i for sure don't want to be ganking people to a unfair advantage just so i can beat them even harder next time. I dont think the last system was broken it just needed more incentive to pvp there. It's a big map it would be nice to have a reason to spread out more then travel in a straight line from one end to the other.
So now my guild has less people that i enjoyed PvPing with, and what people are left just want to PvE now. I will give it one month if i don't see i decent fix im out. Which is really sad because i have been watching this game since 2007.

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Aneu
01.18.2012 , 06:06 PM | #2568
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know that we are currently working on an official response to these issues and we will be posting it soon. Please understand that these issues require some time to investigate and we are making sure that we provide you all with the most updated information in our official response.

We understand that some of you may be frustrated, but we ask for your patience on this to give us time to respond with thorough developer input.

Thank you to those of you that have been posting constructively in this thread.

We will have a response shortly.
Taking your time there...
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Aneu

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Ortoch
01.18.2012 , 06:06 PM | #2569
This is the worst patch I have ever seen in my life why would this idea get past anyone's brain? You are promoting faction vs faction combat on servers that are 8-1 Empire vs Republic.

This issue is making me remove my subscription till there is a full rollback of valor as there are now posts about how to grind from valor 1-60 in approximately 20 hours of AFK macro by the Republic turrets. I earned 60 valor by grinding and now people I am fighting got it in a day of AFK?

Seriously dont make this game die because of incompetent people because right now this is the next RIFT and I'll go back to WoW soon.

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Victrixz
01.18.2012 , 06:06 PM | #2570
Quote: Originally Posted by thriftstorewar View Post
The massacre aside, I'm very hopeful that the number of players claiming to cancel their subscriptions are as honest as they are vehement. I can't wait for the lessened server load, especially considering the depopulation comes from whiners and those who cannot abide hard work or alternatives.

I'm also glad that SWToR has as many different activities (Space Combat, PvE fights and puzzles, Flashpoints, Datacron hunts, crafting, etc) to do. One sub-set experiences problems, in this case PvP, and manifold other options still exist whilst it is being fixed.

As a Republic player and a Jedi that doesn't plan to play anything else, I'm not worried about the faction imbalance or the farmed Valor and Battlemaster items. Being a Jedi represents sacrifice, working hard for tempered power instead of easy and quick power, and being grossly outnumbered due to choice of ethics and practices. If anything, I praise Bioware for making this situation exemplify the Jedi philosophy.

For those who are getting steamrolled on Ilum: please don't take it out on Bioware; find alternative forms of entertainment and trust that their great game so far is insurance that they are interested in a great game in the future. Realize that complaints and rage do nothing to improve the situation.

For those who are taking advantage of the situation: I truly wish you wouldn't, but you pay your money to Bioware for the ability to do so. Therefore, if you choose to do so, do so in good conscience and don't take the numerous cries of my butt-hurt Republicans as representative of us all. I'll be back to Ilum when planetary politics and technology are back under control, and hope to meet you there.

For Bioware PR folks: I'm so sorry. You are doing your job, and I'm sure you understand that your clientele is comprised of flustered teenagers and homebodies who choose not to acquiesce to any change whatsoever. Even so, I truly hope you can continue to work as hard as you have been, and rest assured that at least some of us appreciate your efforts on behalf of your company and will remain patient.

You really want to be a JEDI irl more than anything huh? (I bet that you are on a RPG server)

Us PvPers don't care for the amazing quests, crafting or whatever... We want to PvP and they took that away from us.

Majority of us have been very patient with Bioware but enough is enough, They didn't listen to us in the closed beta, nor the open beta, and now this.
[COLOR="Red"]Bioware is a total FAILURE with patch 1.1 GG ILUM