Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion

Save your anger for tomorrow when you log in and lose all the valor you gained today

When creating a game, the successful ones are going to follow three rules...

1) no lag

2) smooth game play

3) no lag

When you have achieved this, you can now start designing a successful game.


Test center... Why in the world would have you people level up on test center? Test center should have the ability to be max level, use any equipment, etc. Otherwise, you can not test accurately.

The sad thing is, before this patch we knew about server load lag in Ilum. We had a lot of it with 20v20.

How do you expect us to play a game where we can't really play a game due to the amount of server lag and lag that we receive with that much going on?

Want to fix it?

Reduce animations that cause lag. This game is full of them. I realize that this goes against much of which bioware makes games... but guess what? This isn't a single player game, so stop treating it as such.

When you say you fixed something, actually fix it. I get the feeling that the developer notes are all just blatant lies.

MAKE THE GAME SMOOTH, especially in mass. You failed to buy servers that were good enough to run the game. Sorry, but you had to know this, I pointed it out many times in BETA.

If the game is unplayable, it doesn't really matter what you put in game. I remember in BETA, I pointed out that the game wasn't ready for release. The Devs claimed that we were 3-4 games behind the one they were on. There really isn't much different in gameplay when I started playing over a year ago and now.

Take a step back from the game, and realize that you made this game bad. You ignored many people telling you what you needed to fix. You did not put this game in the best position to succeed(ignoring beta players, buying bad servers, not producing a smooth game).

Start making moves towards putting this game in a good situation to thrive. Many of you developed some many other failed games. The gaming community is small and word will eventually spread that you guys can not do your job and hopefully will become unemployable in the near future.

The massacre aside, I'm very hopeful that the number of players claiming to cancel their subscriptions are as honest as they are vehement. I can't wait for the lessened server load, especially considering the depopulation comes from whiners and those who cannot abide hard work or alternatives.

I'm also glad that SWToR has as many different activities (Space Combat, PvE fights and puzzles, Flashpoints, Datacron hunts, crafting, etc) to do. One sub-set experiences problems, in this case PvP, and manifold other options still exist whilst it is being fixed.

As a Republic player and a Jedi that doesn't plan to play anything else, I'm not worried about the faction imbalance or the farmed Valor and Battlemaster items. Being a Jedi represents sacrifice, working hard for tempered power instead of easy and quick power, and being grossly outnumbered due to choice of ethics and practices. If anything, I praise Bioware for making this situation exemplify the Jedi philosophy.

For those who are getting steamrolled on Ilum: please don't take it out on Bioware; find alternative forms of entertainment and trust that their great game so far is insurance that they are interested in a great game in the future. Realize that complaints and rage do nothing to improve the situation.

For those who are taking advantage of the situation: I truly wish you wouldn't, but you pay your money to Bioware for the ability to do so. Therefore, if you choose to do so, do so in good conscience and don't take the numerous cries of my butt-hurt Republicans as representative of us all. I'll be back to Ilum when planetary politics and technology are back under control, and hope to meet you there.

For Bioware PR folks: I'm so sorry. You are doing your job, and I'm sure you understand that your clientele is comprised of flustered teenagers and homebodies who choose not to acquiesce to any change whatsoever. Even so, I truly hope you can continue to work as hard as you have been, and rest assured that at least some of us appreciate your efforts on behalf of your company and will remain patient.

Do you realize how long it will take to get that gear? While imps are completely finished with endgame us reps will be slogging through every difficulty. Plus PVP wil be UNWINNABLE.

Try a 3rd faction. Make them able to group/guild/chat/quest/etc with anyone, but can be killed by anyone. If need be, make it only available on the pvp servers so people have a proper warning, and offer server transfers for those not interested in it. The pvp server are already a joke (Swiftsure's the biggest, but people still cry when I killed folks farming old Ilum). It's not a quick fix, but it's one that looks into the longevity of the game, which is something I would hope you guys are paying attention.

Did I miss a second BW response somewhere? Would someone please be so kind and direct me to the place where it might be found?