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Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion

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Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion
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Whitelightr
01.18.2012 , 04:33 PM | #2041
Bioware will have to do something about this, I cant see how they can let this slide saying it was just an uhoh. I would expect atleast a valor rollback for everyone, maybe more.

Sadly though this combined with the other issues so far (the slicing problem and the harvesting on Ilum) so early in the game has really hurt the players trust in Bioware. The Slicing problem upset the economies on servers, and this latest Ilum bug has made a joke of the PvP on nearly all servers.

Bioware needs to get away from the diplomatic approach of "we'll investigate and take action" crap and make some type of public showing to PROVE that they will not tolerate cheating. And it needs to be something worthwhile.

Personally I think they should perma-ban everyone involved Or atleast roll them back to valor-0 and take away ALL of their PvP gear, and if they are not permabanned then it should be an absolute FINAL WARNING on their account. Is it drastic? Maybe, but I bet future people would think twice about abusing a bug knowing something like this would be the punishment.

And just imo, they should post a list (server by server) of everyone who was caught abusing the bug. It wouldn't do much but personally I will never play with people I know exploit and cheat.
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Borkoo
01.18.2012 , 04:33 PM | #2042
"potential issues" wow, that's embarrassingly bad. Bioware cost themselves millions with this patch.
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atkammoh
01.18.2012 , 04:33 PM | #2043
Quote: Originally Posted by n__n View Post
At least they messed up 2 days before my subscription reoccured vs 2 days afterwards.
Yep 3 days left on mine also, one silver lining from this patch is that the patch released before the pay sub got in.
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Morcova
01.18.2012 , 04:34 PM | #2044
Quote: Originally Posted by Rajakx View Post
Lol at all the Republic hate & QQ.

*sets server rollback scripts on the table*

" You want this, don't you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your server rollback. Use it. I am unarmed. Strike me down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant. "

In the end...you're just like us. Go ahead and give in.
This is why we can't have nice things. Terrible players that are more than happy to play broken games as long as they can use how the game is broken to their own benefit.

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booimscary
01.18.2012 , 04:34 PM | #2045
Quote: Originally Posted by IamEllSee View Post
I've spent hours today world PvP'ing in Ilum. It is in no way acceptable for Bioware to simply rollback to pre 1.1, and completely destroy the huge amount of time I've spent levelling valor today.
Are you kidding me? so because you spent hours exploiting a broken system that makes it ok? so what about the people who spent hours getting free money from the glitch they fixed a few weeks ago, was bioware in the wrong for rectifying that? no! broken is broken and exploiting the system for a certain amount of time only makes it worse. . . seriously

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Givro
01.18.2012 , 04:34 PM | #2046
how much more pages do you need BW ..... shut down server and rollback!!!!!
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fini
01.18.2012 , 04:34 PM | #2047
/Sarcasm
Thanks for the awesome PVP experience on Illum!

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Noxsabe
01.18.2012 , 04:34 PM | #2048
Quote: Originally Posted by hategambit View Post
i am consistently disappointed in developers than cannot forsee issues like this.

it seriously leads me to believe they have no idea what they are programming.

and no idea about player population.

and no idea that players will be losers and exploit every advantage they can out of a broken system.

i wonder if they released this with the idea that "players will be fair and not swarm repubs 100 vs 15 and they will be honest and not farm the turrets for afk valor".

i mean come on. video game players are scum. until developers realize that, they will never get it right. you cant give them even the tiniest crack to exploit, or they will turn it into a canyon.

as someone who legitimately earned battlemaster on my imperial long before this patch, and having a repub alt that i am trying to level up now... i am extremely disheartened by this patch. I will not be going to ilum, and apparently i wont be playing warzones anymore.

all thats left is the pve grind. its like im playing a single player game with an MMO lobby.

woop-de-friggin-doooo
oh common i official protest !! i'm not scum and i demand your apology. and please keep in mind this is Bioware first MMO, so yeah there programmers are not used to code a game for this! what is perfectly normal for a single player game does not normally count for an MMO, that's why people learn from ther mistakes! and soon we will all know what the fix will be, so just relax and wait for official response.
no need to strain your brain over small things that the masses have blown up out of proportion. all what's going on here is spawn-camping AND if someone took the time to read the "rules of conduct" then you will see that spawn-camping falls under the "harassment" section of the rules so i bet allot of people will be making new threads soon that start with "Why is my account banned?".

there see no need to fill this thread with hate-full text, wait and see the fun part still has to come.
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thejingle
01.18.2012 , 04:35 PM | #2049
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratham View Post
Funny how when I used to talk about this / warn about this people just told me I was bad.

How to fix it:

1.) Limit the number of people allowed in the zone at a time (WoW Tol Barad)
2.) Give a tenacity buff based on a % of how ot numbered Rep. is ( WoW Wintergrasp)
3.) Forced re-rolls for Imperial players

Dont even try to add Warhammers Against All Odds thing in this game, IT DOESNT WORK !

Fix this issue or your pvp community will be non-existent very shortly.

Reps will quit from being farmed, Imps will quit for having nobody to fight.
Forced rerolls wouldn't even be needed, I'm sure alot of people would happily switch their Empire characters to republic seeing how bad it has gotten lately, I know I would in a heartbeat. Though there's no way I am remaking my characters as republic from scratch at this point.

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snafusan
01.18.2012 , 04:35 PM | #2050
Everyone is right, you need to take the servers down with immediate effect. If you don't believe this, I suggest calling an emergency meeting within your company now and putting forth the idea that you put a poll up in game - much like the way you did your stress test tickets and allow us - the players, to tell you what we want in game.

Currently PVP is not fun. Quite frankly there was more fun interacting with each other and farming the walkers - yeah sure it was broken, but people put in the effort, socialised and just dealt with it.

If this is allowed to continue, the game is going to get bad rep. Everyone knew this was going to happen given the imperial/republic imbalance. Everyone on the servers has been saying they want character transfers for republic.

I've logged on for about 20 minutes, stood in what shall now be known as the camping area and gone up 2 valor ranks. That's absurd and completely unfair on the people who shrugged PvE and instead focussed on grinding PVP.

You basically have two games to support here - SWTOR PVP (Including open world) and SWTOR PVE (Including hard modes, raids and so on)

While we could live with the PVE bugs and imbalances - the PVP is basically unacceptable. Yes I'm on a PVP realm and I'm not amongst the hardcore pvp'ers - but I can see why they'd be massively frustrated at this.

You can not allow this to continue. Seriously, we'll happily take this downtime. If you dont want to shut the game down - lock everybody out of Ilum with a server announcement explaining why. Just make sure this stops immediately!

Argh. Upset.

btw: This is from an imperial perspective on Niman. This is not a good game now, for PVP.