Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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NickDrakeRoad

01.18.2012 , 01:31 AM \| #51	Quote
I am a lvl 50 gunslinger geared in full champion gear and enjoy the class a lot. My spec is dirty fighting which is a lot more mobile than something like sharpshooter. I personally think dirty fighting is an awesome spec for objective games like voidstar, because you have an aoe dot attack that you can use on a group of enemies who are trying to plant a bomb on the door. Personally as an old time swg pre-cu player that enjoyed professions such as carbineer and pistoleer, the gunslinger class with dirty fighting spec fits my playstyle just right. I was having a pretty fun time countering this operative tonight and putting dots on him preventing him from making an escape. Operatives are definitely the class that gives me the most trouble but if I survive the first onslaught attack I usually come up the victor just by snaring, dotting them up, and nuking them. I do agree with a lot of the negatives people have described on this thread though and gunslinger really shines with a full spec healer keeping hots on you.

Rykko

01.18.2012 , 08:21 AM \| #52	Quote
I do think Gunslingers need something more to compensate for having to self root, especially when the system for doing so is so buggy. "Unknown Effect" so often prevents you from taking cover it isn't even funny let alone all the advantages Snipers get from their melee stun not rooting them to their equivalent of sabotage charge being instant. Perhaps the self shield could be buffed to absorb the same kind of damage as the Sorc/Sage bubble or a combat sprint like theirs could be added for the Gunslinger AC only.
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Halefthaut

01.18.2012 , 08:34 AM \| #53	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by SwordoftheStars Bountyhunters and other classes outdamage you, have heavy armor and selfheal and are not a pure dps class like we are. (something is seriously wrong here) Yup, "other classes" all of them have heavy armor and heals and 31/31/31 specs Quote: Originally Posted by SwordoftheStars Also every build that i tested now has energy problems up to the point where its just better to die and have full bar of energy rather then wait for energy to return and being useless for like 1 minute .. Is not BW fault you didnt learn how your resource works. L2P issue Quote: Originally Posted by SwordoftheStars Competent Teams will also knock, choke, push you out of cover the whole time. Only viable build for PVP is lethality (the one with the dots) I have around 400 expertise and manage to deal around 250-300k damage in a WZ without going to cover a single time. My level 40 Rage Juggernauth can�t even reach 150k damage. I have no heals or CC. You�re doing fine. Also, "competent" players never go hero on their own, they stay within their team

LuthirFontaine

01.18.2012 , 08:34 AM \| #54	Quote
As a gunslinger I only have a few problems 1: Cover takes for...ev...er to get in. Getting jumped by a mar...Ok i need to leg shot him..done.....Ok move away....ok get into cover...get into cover...get into..for @#$@ sake. 2: Why does my shield have flasing lights on it?! 3: Rolling into cover...ok what cover....warzones have barely any and ev has like 1 or 2 spots 4: Ops....god do i hate thee 5: LOS is a pain in the ***...I really cant move much, so when some plays hide and seek with me im toast Thats about it....Now you can tell me how im a crappy gunslinger and how your friend's cousin twice removed can take out 4 ops and a sorc all by himself and top dam at 600k

ninjashadowdark

01.18.2012 , 08:36 AM \| #55	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by SwordoftheStars sad but true, damage is mediocre and you have not enough survival tools. (Damage mitigation skills like absorb and stuff are to weak or dont last long enough, maybe absorb like 1k damage) Bountyhunters and other classes outdamage you, have heavy armor and selfheal and are not a pure dps class like we are. (something is seriously wrong here) On top of that, the stupid cover system is preventing you from doing damage because it happens alot that enemies just LOS or sprint away. Also every build that i tested now has energy problems up to the point where its just better to die and have full bar of energy rather then wait for energy to return and being useless for like 1 minute .. Competent Teams will also knock, choke, push you out of cover the whole time. Only viable build for PVP is lethality (the one with the dots) I have around 400 expertise and manage to deal around 250-300k damage in a WZ without going to cover a single time. LOS is less of a problem because of the dots ticking and you dont have to waste time and GCD for going to cover ... Only downside of the dots is that they instantly break flash grenade and legshot, so this two skills become useless once you have dotted people BW you should revisit this class and think over the cover system, thanks well i seen bad gunslingers and good ones ......

RwNemo

01.18.2012 , 08:37 AM \| #56	Quote
This whole thread, down to the title is a joke.
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Dhregin

01.18.2012 , 08:43 AM \| #57	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by NickDrakeRoad I am a lvl 50 gunslinger geared in full champion gear and enjoy the class a lot. My spec is dirty fighting which is a lot more mobile than something like sharpshooter. I personally think dirty fighting is an awesome spec for objective games like voidstar, because you have an aoe dot attack that you can use on a group of enemies who are trying to plant a bomb on the door. Personally as an old time swg pre-cu player that enjoyed professions such as carbineer and pistoleer, the gunslinger class with dirty fighting spec fits my playstyle just right. I was having a pretty fun time countering this operative tonight and putting dots on him preventing him from making an escape. Operatives are definitely the class that gives me the most trouble but if I survive the first onslaught attack I usually come up the victor just by snaring, dotting them up, and nuking them. I do agree with a lot of the negatives people have described on this thread though and gunslinger really shines with a full spec healer keeping hots on you. This is an accurate post.

decazut

01.18.2012 , 09:18 AM \| #58	Quote
I've recently ditched my 32 gunslinger - not because I felt the class weak or underpowered (I've never been lower than top 3 damage dealers in any wf, which is OK since I play sharpshooter and do almost only single target damage), but due to the fact that the cover mechanic leaves a lot to be desired. Not being able to enter cover QUICKLY (while a severely upset melee dps is chopping away your hp bar) is a deal-breaker for me and I think this represents the main (if not single) issue this class has right now. You get great damage and enough crowd control to compensate being nailed to the floor most of the time; combined with good strategy and battlefield positioning, you can poop on a lot of people . But still you can find yourself in need of a pulse and the damned cover won't pop . LE: And I also find the story to be crappy and uninteresting, compared to other classes'.
Athunon, Vanguard of the Red Eclipse.

Scratchie

01.18.2012 , 09:21 AM \| #59	Quote
If you started using Crouch instead of Take Cover then over half the complaints in this thread magically disappear.

JediDuckling

01.18.2012 , 09:25 AM \| #60	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by SwordoftheStars sad but true, damage is mediocre and you have not enough survival tools. (Damage mitigation skills like absorb and stuff are to weak or dont last long enough, maybe absorb like 1k damage) Bountyhunters and other classes outdamage you, have heavy armor and selfheal and are not a pure dps class like we are. (something is seriously wrong here) On top of that, the stupid cover system is preventing you from doing damage because it happens alot that enemies just LOS or sprint away. Also every build that i tested now has energy problems up to the point where its just better to die and have full bar of energy rather then wait for energy to return and being useless for like 1 minute .. Competent Teams will also knock, choke, push you out of cover the whole time. Only viable build for PVP is lethality (the one with the dots) I have around 400 expertise and manage to deal around 250-300k damage in a WZ without going to cover a single time. LOS is less of a problem because of the dots ticking and you dont have to waste time and GCD for going to cover ... Only downside of the dots is that they instantly break flash grenade and legshot, so this two skills become useless once you have dotted people BW you should revisit this class and think over the cover system, thanks im sorry when i saw this post i laughed. gunslingers in cover with that extra cover sheild to make it even bigger then the aoe massive sheild makes them pretty dam hard to kill and they are sitting in 1 place spamming off 5k shots.they get stuns and knock backroots also. how on earth can you make out they need a buff when they are already insane as it is.

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