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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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SwordoftheStars
01.17.2012 , 09:13 PM | #1
sad but true, damage is mediocre and you have not enough survival tools. (Damage mitigation skills like absorb and stuff are to weak or dont last long enough, maybe absorb like 1k damage)

Bountyhunters and other classes outdamage you, have heavy armor and selfheal
and are not a pure dps class like we are. (something is seriously wrong here)

On top of that, the stupid cover system is preventing you from doing damage because it happens alot that enemies just LOS or sprint away. Also every build that i tested now has energy problems up to the point where its just better to die and have full bar of energy rather then wait for energy to return and being useless for like 1 minute ..

Competent Teams will also knock, choke, push you out of cover the whole time.
Only viable build for PVP is lethality (the one with the dots) I have around 400 expertise and manage to deal around 250-300k damage in a WZ without going to cover a single time.

LOS is less of a problem because of the dots ticking and you dont have to waste time and GCD for going to cover ...
Only downside of the dots is that they instantly break flash grenade and legshot, so this two skills become useless once you have dotted people

BW you should revisit this class and think over the cover system, thanks

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SwordoftheStars
01.17.2012 , 09:22 PM | #2
any other thoughts about Gunslinger ? or does the majority think the class is fine ?

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Aidank
01.17.2012 , 09:25 PM | #3
The class is fine, you do amazing burst and sustained damage and even though cover can suck you've got a lot of cc to make up for it.
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Oogadishou
01.17.2012 , 09:29 PM | #4
Tell that to the gunslinger that three-shotted me about five times a few matches ago.

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Gidoru
01.17.2012 , 09:29 PM | #5
So true, but posting is basically pointless because you will get a bunch of ignorant replies like "well this one time in a warzone i got top damage, gunslinger is fine" or 'i see Gunslingers top damage all the time" when in actuality what they see are OPs/scoundrels. (As the above posts illustrate)

Too bad dealing damage alone in a warzone is not an accurate measure of whether or not a class is good or bad.

Gunslinger/Sniper are far and away the worst advanced class in the game.

-You can do decent damage, but not while being attacked.
-You have no worthwhile instant damage abilities, instead you have casted or channelled abilities that deal as much damage or less then the instant abilities of other classes.
-You have virtually no survivability. Id say without a doubt snipers are the easiest class to kill.
-You have no mobility, you are forced to stand still to do damage. Move and your damage is about 10% of what it was behind cover.
-and to top it off your damage is incredibly easy to mitigate/avoid by simply line of sighting or going out of range.

It seems they spent too much time making Operatives stupidly overpowered to make snipers decent. I guess you picked the wrong class.

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SwordoftheStars
01.17.2012 , 09:31 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
The class is fine, you do amazing burst and sustained damage and even though cover can suck you've got a lot of cc to make up for it.
i dont see where the amazing burst is and i fail to see the reason why classes that are able to self heal or tank do more dps then a pure dps class (3 Trees for dps)

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Gidoru
01.17.2012 , 09:34 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by SwordoftheStars View Post
i dont see where the amazing burst is and i fail to see the reason why classes that are able to self heal or tank do more dps then a pure dps class (3 Trees for dps)
All 3 made for PvE apparently.
Ive respecced about 10 times in the past couple of days trying all 3 specs are none of them are fun or good. The best spec i could come up with is a hybrid spec that i can share with you if you want.

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ihateyouall
01.17.2012 , 09:34 PM | #8
I'm always #1 or 2 on the damage done as a sniper and usually am up there in the least amount of deaths. Our absorption isn't great when you look at classes like the sorcerer or the bounty hunter, but we get something.

Entrench is also quite good and we can backload alot of our damage if we want to. Sometimes we really get screwed with the ability delay and pvp can be laggy at times and give us issues. We aren't the strongest but I don't think the class is that weak.

There are definitely not alot of people playing the class though, at least not on my server.

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memoriesofprey
01.17.2012 , 09:35 PM | #9
You're better off than dps Jedi Knights/Sith Warriors.
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Jooji
01.17.2012 , 09:36 PM | #10
Snipers hit like a truck. They may not have the mobility other classes have but they are immune to knockbacks, etc while in cover.