From a Sorc, about Sorc nerf QQ... the low down.

Does anyone think a sorc player would really say they needed to be nerfed, uhhhh yea you guys need to be nerfed and nerfed hard.

I can't understand why people complain about sorcerers.

Yes we have CC, but no more than say Smugglers or IA, we have sprint, so what other classes can leap 50f across a room, we have a shield? SO? other classes can put up a shield lowing all damage to nothing for 20 sec...

Sorcerer damage is pathetic, we can't kill anything that is being healed, when we focus targeted we can do nothing, sprint wont save us.

look at this player, he is a skilled sorcerer picking on stupid players who can't look up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1pkLYOgzk8

he is using battlemaster gear, does that damage look scary? 1k hits? maybe a 2k here and there, slow tick dots and easy to counter channel attack? nothing he does is scary, he doesnt 4 shot people, he can't hit over 3k he cant leap tall building and own 2 players, he can't stun aoe and aoe **** for 4k a tick, he can't sit immune to all cc and interupts while pumping out 5k hit chains, he cant stealth and attack for 10k damage then instantly restealth.

all he can do is Dot, slow, stun and heal and do none of these as well as other classes.

I'm going to respectively call BS on this. There is no way to get both 300k healing and 410k damage. To get 300k healing, you have to spec 31 points healing to get the aoe which leaves you not enough for the dps aoe's. And vice versa.

Sorcs are glass cannons, if you can't handle the fact that your doing 5x the damage per hit you would against a heavy armor wearer, and the fact that our shield diverts 5k damage maximum, your just bad.

I'm still looking for proof. In retrospect, i'm not looking for idiots who did not even bother to read the OP, or any of the following arguements in this thread. You don't understand your class, or the sorc. So you sir, need to go figure it out.

For players that understand the mechanics, Sorcs are arguably the easiest kill 1v1 for a lot of classes/specs with gear being roughly equal.

Yes, and what's frustrating is that us players that take the time to understand the mechanics are having to take the time to explain to these idiots about it. First off, these QQ'ers need to go research the stuff for theirself instead of looking like idiots. Second, the dev's should have already pumped this information into the flow instead of allowing us players to take a battering from 10 year olds crying nerf.

Agreed. Sorce/Sage gets the benefit of ranged dps (and slow dps at that) with the set back of light armor. Sorce/Sage out of spec healing is crap if you are getting beat down, so us being dps and heals in one is not an arguement. If you let a dps spec Sorc/sage get away with healing someone and not get in his face you should have read only forum priviledges.

To chain bubble you have to have the timing, which doesn't always work out like you want it to. Not to mention an untalented bubble sucks. Most assassins/shadows will tear through it np. Only undergeared and underleveled players will find it a problem.

The balance in pvp across the classes is there. It is the gear that makes the biggest difference post 50. I don't even mind Ops that demolish me, of course most times im fast enough with cc break and bubble to wear i can get away or survive for backup to arrive. And it was my fault in the first place for being on my own.

Sorce/sages don't need a nerf, no class does. There will always be a gap between <50, fresh 50's, and geared 50's. Suffer through it until you can compete or just don't compete.

Sorcs are the easiest class to kill... you guys who complain about them suck... but seriously they should be nerfed, I propose:

- all their damage spells do 1 damage total over 10 seconds.
- they should have 10k health max at level 50.
- they should only be able to heal 5 health over 20 seconds.
- remove all CC and bubble abilities.

I think all other classes should receive a similar nerf except operatives who needs a buff!

I propose.

- 10k instant damage skills with additional 10k damage over 10 seconds.
- their health should be buffed to 600k that regenerates at 100k every 10 seconds.
- we need more CC abilities too.

/thread

You mean like Infil/Deception spec'd Shadows/Assassins who attack at MELEE range? Oh, oh wait they have Sprint.

Now I'm actually curious, as, frankly, both those AoEs on instant-cast are among my top damage powers available (note: even against single targets, at least for burst. Can't sustain, but I've yet to run OoF in a Warzone). For DPS, I'd need to crit on every Force Lightning tick to come even close, and only Shock (even talented for the extra 50% dmg proc) comes particularly close. If I'm on a single target, Crushing Darkness will be used first, of course, but if there's multiple people in a group, and I can do my best DPS by using both my best AoEs (I don't actually bother with Lightning Storm, even against groups - too slow, too useless, I agree with you there)... why wouldn't I? And How am I not helping?

I'm honestly curious how, as a mostly-DPS specced sorc, I'm supposed to contribute meaningfully with damage if 2 of my top 3 damaging abilities on instant-case are, apparently, not contributing meaningfully.