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Anareon
01.14.2012 , 04:25 PM | #11
It's a naval tradition also to address female and male officers by "Mr. " and then their last name.

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HELhikari
01.14.2012 , 05:43 PM | #12
I believe there are real life militaries where officers are addressed as Sir regardless of their gender.

(There's also at least one female Sith Lord who calls herself Lady)
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Izichial
01.14.2012 , 06:24 PM | #13
Pause for the moment and consider how much time and hard drive space would be required to have an alternate version of every single spoken sentence which contains the word "sir" and "lord" where those words are replaced with "ma'am" and "lady".
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lostluna
01.14.2012 , 06:32 PM | #14
It could be the fact that they are not really speaking English and therefore the equivalent to our "sir" or "ma'am" is something that is gender neutral. This isn't our universe.

As for female Sith being called "Lord", I think its just a translation of the Darth title into galactic basic. It's probably gender neutral as well.

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Foolbee
01.15.2012 , 04:12 AM | #15
@ Brandonspikes- suddenly i'm afraid to hit the flirt button (jk)
@ Polebreaker- worshipfulness should be an actual title (jk)
@ Pyromanen- thanks, I'll see if I can wiki it or something. I may have missed it when I was doing the quests
@ everyone else- thanks for the thoughts and insight, may never know the real answer, but it may have been intentional and not just an oversight

@ Relai- I do believe you may have found the true answer, right In front of everyone's faces..... It is a mans world. Well done. *applause* (Just kidding )

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Kellan
01.16.2012 , 11:43 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by HELhikari View Post
I believe there are real life militaries where officers are addressed as Sir regardless of their gender.

(There's also at least one female Sith Lord who calls herself Lady)
This. Using "Sir" is a completely appropriate term for the US Navy at the very least. Every once in a while a female officer will get a hair up her butt and yell at you for it, but there's really nothing she can do about it. Sir is the basic honorific, denoting your defference/acceptance of a superior officer. Essentially it is the same as addressing an officer by rank, such as Ensign, Lieutenant, Captain etc. , but in short hand.

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Foolbee
01.16.2012 , 06:09 PM | #17
I haven't run into anyone calling a ma'am, a sir I the navy, but then again I'm a dirt sailor, never been on a ship. I've had pretty limited contact with Airedales and fleeters.

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Enodia
01.17.2012 , 04:56 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Foolbee View Post
@ Brandonspikes- suddenly i'm afraid to hit the flirt button
@ Polebreaker- worshipfulness should be an actual title
@ Pyromanen- thanks, I'll see if I can wiki it or something. I may have missed it when I was doing the quests
@ everyone else- thanks for the thoughts and insight, may never know the real answer, but it may have been intentional and not just an oversight

@ Relai- I do believe you may have found the true answer, right In front of everyone's faces..... It is a mans world. Well done. *applause*
To the thread starter: Why bother to ask the community if you've already made your mind up? Unless you were just trying to get people to give you an answer to your liking, your post may very well be seen as trolling and or trying to stir trouble in the community. If you were seriously looking for an answer, there are plenty of answers in the thread and then real life equivalents. If you were looking for a " BIOWARE is SEXIST" answer you probably should go play another game because it's obvious you don't care enough to educate yourself on Star Wars history or lore.
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Obi-Wan: Only a master of evil, Darth.

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Foolbee
01.17.2012 , 06:11 PM | #19
I started the thread, because I was curious if there was any lore attached to it. Apologies if my comment was written in away to suggest I had already made up my mind. I also attached some very sarcastic comments, because I appreciated the humor, not necessarily agreed with it. I will try to emphasize my sarcasm better in the future.

And yes I appreciated your comment, and unless I mis-read it, your suggesting it's been that way since the beginning. It may have been just a fact of life courtesy, therefore no explanation has been needed or given.

Also, I again was being sarcastic in suggesting the queen/princess titles should be changed. I was using it as an illustration, nothing more.

Just to clarify, I am not at all bothered by, female officers being called sir, it just sounds odd when I hear it. I also have no problem at all with women in leadership roles, as they can be very capable. I have had several Chiefs, Senior Chiefs and Master Chiefs that I have the upmost respect for and have enjoyed working with.

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Bobinator
01.17.2012 , 06:21 PM | #20
Lots of military's called female officers sir for a while, female officers werent called ma'am until like the 90s in US military.
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