Tank stats in PVP

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Tank stats in PVP

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lightertripod

01.17.2012 , 05:46 AM \| #241	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Zidaen Sorry I only looked at the Jugg list. Didn't realize the mirror was screwing you so hard. As for the guy talking about Shadow abilities, yes you're right. wait what your saying jugg and guardians mirror ability's are dif types of damage ?
Toya Legion of Death

BambulaGTS

01.17.2012 , 05:56 AM \| #242	Quote
About crit. If there is a 1 step procedure of determining the outcome of hit, and shield/crit is on one table, having high crit probability must exclude normal hit (either crit or shield). Getting crit higher will push shield outta of table. It there us a 2 step procedure and shileded/not shielded hit resolve in step 2, after miss/normal/crit/glance than crits should do nothing to shielding.

VlpsGuy

01.17.2012 , 05:58 AM \| #243	Quote
whats the point of tanking in pvp then?

Krakov

01.17.2012 , 01:10 PM \| #244	Quote
/bump - this needs addressed for sure...
SWTOR is Kotor 3 on a much larger scale. So once you accept that fact, your over-all game experience will improve greatly...

Archexecutor

01.17.2012 , 02:50 PM \| #245	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by VlpsGuy whats the point of tanking in pvp then? In short- NONE. Damage-sponge guardbot. Walking additional healtbar. I've been testing this as a fully tank-specced and geared Powertech at 50 for a week now. I'm no more durable than a Marauder or Agent. Heck, I have a hard time staying alive 1v1 against a fully champion(possibly battlemaster)-geared DPS smuggler. I get melted way too fast for comfort :/ I only have 1 piece of champ gear mind you- unlucky bag rolls and not many bags so far anyway.

MumbaUmba

01.17.2012 , 02:57 PM \| #246	Quote
gear > class. As for defense, yeah got killed by Operative when my 100% defense was up.

Venrale

01.17.2012 , 03:58 PM \| #247	Quote
I dont see the issue most people have with this mechanic.. here is why most of the skills complained about will drastically reduce your energy when spammed, so if you have a good healer(which is necessary in group oriented pvp) they are going to have to use their "auto attack" as most people have labeled it in order to regen and try and noob spam you again, which is where the defense/shield/absorb kick in.. at this point your prolly low in health and if your any other class can be killed easy with the basic attack but your not because your defense and shield/absorb gives you time to kite for heals. Most of the dmg types are mitigated fairly heavy through your armor except for elemental which if you run tank spec with Ion shield and put points into tactics line for power armour your elemental mit is at 9% which goes up to 19% with a sage or shadow in group. I have almost full champ gear and can hold off 3-4 people with just 1 good healer EASY and ussually end up killing all of them unless they have a tank aswell.. alot of this game is a gear check and people who have equal gear to me have a VERY hard time killing me, a tank should not be invincable but they should be harder to kill than any other class which a fully geared tank is.

Trixterz

01.17.2012 , 04:04 PM \| #248	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Venrale I dont see the issue most people have with this mechanic.. here is why most of the skills complained about will drastically reduce your energy when spammed, so if you have a good healer(which is necessary in group oriented pvp) they are going to have to use their "auto attack" as most people have labeled it in order to regen and try and noob spam you again, which is where the defense/shield/absorb kick in.. at this point your prolly low in health and if your any other class can be killed easy with the basic attack but your not because your defense and shield/absorb gives you time to kite for heals. Most of the dmg types are mitigated fairly heavy through your armor except for elemental which if you run tank spec with Ion shield and put points into tactics line for power armour your elemental mit is at 9% which goes up to 19% with a sage or shadow in group. I have almost full champ gear and can hold off 3-4 people with just 1 good healer EASY and ussually end up killing all of them unless they have a tank aswell.. alot of this game is a gear check and people who have equal gear to me have a VERY hard time killing me, a tank should not be invincable but they should be harder to kill than any other class which a fully geared tank is. This is a joke. If you have a good healer next to you and they dont you can kill them even easier with DPS spec. You are not a tank untill they waste their energy. And that's not even the point of this topic. Noone is asking for Tanks to be invincible, but as things stand Tanks are simply not viable... which looses the point really. Its a HUGE letdown.

Venrale

01.17.2012 , 04:26 PM \| #249	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Trixterz This is a joke. If you have a good healer next to you and they dont you can kill them even easier with DPS spec. You are not a tank untill they waste their energy. And that's not even the point of this topic. Noone is asking for Tanks to be invincible, but as things stand Tanks are simply not viable... which looses the point really. Its a HUGE letdown. acctually without realizing it you are asking for tanks to be invincable, they already are almost impossible to kill with full gear and with guard + taunts i can keep my healer alive easy and as I said my elemental mit is acctually sitting high because I spec tank so if their is no point to tanking ina wz how come im ussually in top 3.. also intelligent players cycle in their "auto attack" so as to keep up the ability to hit their heavy hitting skills. as I said before that noob skill spammer will not be able to kill you with good heals nor will he be able to kill your healer if your a good tank..... oh and im talking about a group of 3 which includes 2 dps and 1 heal... if it is 1 dps 1 tank 1 healer.. no i cant outlast them but 2 dps and a healer yes I can hold them off and eventually kill them with just my healer... its called knowing how to utalize your cds/ccs and I have played with all the lines since ive aquired my champ gear... also the +5% dmg inc when guarding my healer is way more pro than traiting dps

Trujan

01.17.2012 , 04:40 PM \| #250	Quote
Shadow tank here, I have Kinetic Ward up all the time. It has 8 charges and lasts 20 seconds, with a cooldown of 20 seconds. It increases my shield chance. Everytime i shield an attack i loose a charge. I almost always have 8 charges even deep in the melee. I am not shielding attacks.

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