Operatives: Most broken garbage balance ever.

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Operatives: Most broken garbage balance ever.

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Sevvy

01.17.2012 , 08:53 AM \| #241	Quote
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Lag ***** Powertech * Helm of Graush Sevv ***** Sentinel * Helm of Graush <Hutts Don't Have Feet>

Amp_

01.17.2012 , 08:53 AM \| #242	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by HyperThomas You do realize that CC breaker is on a 2 min cooldown for most classes right? In that massive *** stun that operatives have if you cannot CC break they can get you down to 10-20% health just while in the stun. No, you don't understand. When there is an Operative about in the warzone you're supposed to save every cd you have to be used on them because they're perfectly balanced.

Ossos

01.17.2012 , 08:54 AM \| #243	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ArmoredJuneBug That's partly due to another issue, namely that defensive stats do **** all in PvP. Your Defense and Shielding/Absorption stats only work against attacks that do weapon damage, not Force/Tech. Operatives/Scoundrels do mostly Kinetic damage with their poking abilities, which can't defended or shielded against. Add a 50% armor ignore debuff and tanks are generally worse off against Operatives/Scoundrels than anyone else because their conventional defenses don't work. The best defensive abilities in PvP are damage shields like the Sage/Sorcerer bubble and hard mitigation abilities (those that reduce incoming damage by xx%). On topic: As a Shadow tank and Operative healer myself I'd wait to see what the stacking consumables fix will do first. Heck, I'd advocate getting rid of the PvP damage buffs altogether - the last thing PvP needs is more burst. If that's not enough I'd say the next step is start making more attacks (for most classes mind, not just Operatives/Scoundrels) respect defensive stats and take a hard look at the armor ignore percentages. It's likely that there need not be any significant changes to the classes in question, most likely it's a number of different issues stacking to exacerbate the situation. QF mother F-ing T!!!
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Ossos

01.17.2012 , 08:56 AM \| #244	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Amp_ No, you don't understand. When there is an Operative about in the warzone you're supposed to save every cd you have to be used on them because they're perfectly balanced. Your tears make me happy.
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Amp_

01.17.2012 , 08:58 AM \| #245	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ossos Your tears make me happy. I'm not crying, just stating the obvious. lol I've survived through the opening before and won.

Lushbits

01.17.2012 , 08:59 AM \| #246	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Moosefeathers I had gripes with operatives too until i hit the level cap and got some gear, I'd hope that bioware would never address issues largely presented by people not even playing the game at its most balanced state QFT. As I said before: Wait until there is a 50's only bracket and everyone is up to par on PvP gear. THEN BW can start looking at balancing individual classes, especially a class ONLY made for coming-out-of-stealth-burst.

BDutch

01.17.2012 , 09:00 AM \| #247	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ArmoredJuneBug Add a 50% armor ignore debuff and tanks are generally worse off against Operatives/Scoundrels than anyone else because their conventional defenses don't work. BH/Troopers are generally worse off against Operatives/Scoundrels, in your experience?
Originally Posted by Puja The sentinel PVP armor is PINK and POOP colored with golden ******* and a clown helmet my brain is not able to make any sense out of. Then some sort of giant bug from the Jetsons has attached itself to the left shoulder.

Thiussat

01.17.2012 , 09:00 AM \| #248	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by thejaga Going to go out on a limb and actually suggest that the Pyromancers' ability to one-shot multiple players consecutively was even less balanced. Just saying. And it's still there. Trion got the wise idea in 1.6 to take away the pyro nerfs and bring them back to their old status. And they also buffed stormcaller (lol) which made them godlike for a few weeks before they gave them a flat 30% nerf in PvP. Rift's class balance is the worst ever. Trion is constantly buffing and nerfing some class every patch making it FoTM with tons of people rolling alts to join the fun. It's almost like they do it for the lulz. Let us hope BW does not make such sweeping changes to classes every patch. Lets see if the stim and adrenal stacking nerf doesn't help this first (which I think it will -- a lot).

Ossos

01.17.2012 , 09:01 AM \| #249	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Amp_ I'm not crying, just stating the obvious. lol I've survived through the opening before and won. That being said, have you caught an Operative/Scoundrel in the out in the open and won? ...just curious...because you're saying you've beaten a class that had an UNSTOPPABLE/INSURMOUNTABLE ADVANTAGE. If this is the case, well, by the logic of people in this thread... ...you need a HUGE NERF because you're OP.
Preventing Hackers and Exploiters from ruining the game is not a priority. Preventing you from mentioning the fact that they exist and go unpunished is.

belialle

01.17.2012 , 09:08 AM \| #250	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Amp_ I'm not crying, just stating the obvious. lol I've survived through the opening before and won. So.... You have been jumped by an operative/scoundrel and .... you somehow managed to live to tell the tale?? How can this be?? It's hard to concentrate with all the shrieking going on in this thread, and I think you have just BLOWN MY MIND, MAN. Everyone knows that they are so OP that no one could ever survive the opener from a level 50 scoundrel. I mean, I have survived, too.....but I'm only in my 30s and a healer, so what I do is survive and escape. But you.....You survived and won. I guess, using the logic apparent in this thread, that someone ought to nerf you, eh?

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