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16man Soa Hard Mode Walkthrough Video


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darthhavok
01.16.2012 , 01:58 PM | #11
Nice video. Very helpful!
Y'all can't make me have a signature!!!!! No way no how!!!!

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Niclamus
01.16.2012 , 03:32 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Artacks View Post
If your raid is competent enough, they can target the pylons and see who the ball is on anyway.
Close, the pylons cannot actually be targeted, nor is the ball's target while it is still spawning the actual target it goes after 93.75% of the time.

Once the ball starts moving you can see whos target it actually is. The ball does (slowly) mirror movement of it's target so it is pretty easy to see who it is going after. Having "tanks" soak damage on 16man is the easiest way to do it. It is also the most common way among guilds who have killed the boss of doing it also.

8man there is no need to have people taunt the balls.

Make sure people are running directly through the center of the ball to detonate it and take as little of the AOE damage as possible.
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Artacks
01.16.2012 , 04:02 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Niclamus View Post
Close, the pylons cannot actually be targeted, nor is the ball's target while it is still spawning the actual target it goes after 93.75% of the time.

Once the ball starts moving you can see whos target it actually is. The ball does (slowly) mirror movement of it's target so it is pretty easy to see who it is going after. Having "tanks" soak damage on 16man is the easiest way to do it. It is also the most common way among guilds who have killed the boss of doing it also.

8man there is no need to have people taunt the balls.

Make sure people are running directly through the center of the ball to detonate it and take as little of the AOE damage as possible.
Then you are experiencing something we have not yet. Its quite possible to target the pylon while a ball is spawning inside (sorry if I confused you), and its also accurate. On only one occasion the ball wasn't targetting who it was supposed to be, and that was because that target died as the ball was spawning.

I think you may be confused with something else. Or you are doing something wrong. Who knows with all the bugs.

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Niclamus
01.16.2012 , 06:48 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Artacks View Post
Then you are experiencing something we have not yet. Its quite possible to target the pylon while a ball is spawning inside (sorry if I confused you), and its also accurate. On only one occasion the ball wasn't targetting who it was supposed to be, and that was because that target died as the ball was spawning.

I think you may be confused with something else. Or you are doing something wrong. Who knows with all the bugs.
I don't mind you trying to comment in and help people, but you're spreading misinformation. I understand you haven't been able to kill this boss yet so you probably haven't figured out the mechanics. Keep working at it, I'm sure you'll get it.

I also have videos up for Annihilation Droid XRR-3, Gharj, and the Infernal Council so you can work on those nightmare modes. I'm sure you'll get your first kill in on them soon. Grats on your nightmare pylon kill by the way.
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Artacks
01.16.2012 , 07:49 PM | #15
To all else interested, if you target the pylons as the balls are spawning, you can see who the ball is targetting. This fight, done correctly, only requires 1 tank. If your raid pays attention they can go pop their own balls (at the correct time) and only take 2-3k damage. Just wait until the ball is completely dimmed out to pop it.

This way you can put more DPS on the boss, and less time having tanks that aren't needed run in circles around the room pulling balls.

This will put you WELL ahead of the enrage timer if done correctly.

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Niclamus
01.16.2012 , 08:01 PM | #16
I had a long post here responding to yours, however I have decided that it really isn't worth the time to argue with you about this. Anyone who knows the encounter can tell that... well.. you don't by the fact that you mentioned an enrage timer.

I understand your need to feel relevant in the endgame scene in this game, and your inability to complete content with your current guild leaves you no choice but to come to the forums and tell stories. However, please do it outside of my threads.

I also can understand that you are probably upset that the guild that was founded mostly by people who left your guild because they couldn't stand your personality is doing so much better than yours. Once again, not my problem as I wasn't part of that group, leave it out of my threads.

If you truly want to help contribute to the endgame scene in this game the first thing you need to do is find a way to motivate your current guild and complete the content. Only then will you have the knowledge to help others do the same. As you have not done this, please stop trying to mislead people as there are people who post on these forums looking for actual help to complete encounters.
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US - Hedarr Soongh - Progression PVE Raiding
5/5 5/5 Nightmare 16m - Boss Walkthroughs
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Artacks
01.16.2012 , 08:05 PM | #17
Despite what you guys think, I don't follow you around like you follow me. I thought after a while it would get blown over, but I still have people daily coming to my IRC telling me they interviewed with you guys, and all you did was talk about me, we've had to redo our site standards because people like Fipps were trying to poach members from us, you come into our progression threads and troll us.

We've done nothing but try to help out, I even showed Cepheid how to put up a proper screenshot of a boss kill so you guys wouldn't be questioned on its validity.

When are you going to move on? We're all trying to help the community here, so stop your childish grudges against me and help build the community instead of tear it down.

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Niclamus
01.16.2012 , 08:15 PM | #18
You follow us religiously. The easiest example of that was when Jaxon hit level 50, you instantly posted stating you did it first. We then checked and you were still in the 40s, not even close.

We started working on Soa HM, you then posted stating you killed it not only before us - but before AoD. However you could never provide any proof of it and your own guildmates came out stating you guys hadn't even got to Soa in Hardmode yet, also that you posted that without their knowledge. This isn't an issue of us following you, but rather you following us and then making up lies to the community. The only content you have proof of clearing is Pylons Nightmare.

I am not a part of the people that left your group, and I really didn't care about what happened between you and them until it affected me directly by your downvoting my videos on YouTube. Obviously you are going to deny it, but it was pretty clear that it was you since only moments before you were watching my stream. Then all of a sudden every video I had uploaded, videos showing the guild you follow so closely doing content you haven't been able to, were downvoted.

I still really don't care about your actions as MOST of them did not affect me, however I am genuinely trying to help the community and you are being very counterproductive in that by spreading misinformation. Please go elsewhere to do that.

EDIT: Nice, your news posts I referenced in my original long posts have disappeared off your website. Including your proof of killing pylons on Nightmare.
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5/5 5/5 Nightmare 16m - Boss Walkthroughs
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Artacks
01.16.2012 , 08:22 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Niclamus View Post
You follow us religiously. The easiest example of that was when Jaxon hit level 50, you instantly posted stating you did it first. We then checked and you were still in the 40s, not even close.
Yeah you're delusional. This conversation is over. Clearly you guys are still holding a giant grudge about god knows what, and are now re-writing history for the purpose of... well, I'm not even sure to tell you the truth. I neither cared, nor knew what people in your guild hit 50, because again, I was too busy leveling and not following you around like you have OPW for the last 8 months. I never claimed to be world first 50. All I did was post the time that I hit 50. Again, making a character on my server to "check my level"? Its borderline stalkerish. I understand you guys are upset, but really? Do you not see the obsession here? I try to ignore it but you guys keep bringing up how crazy you are!

I haven't watched your stream since beta, sorry man. I didn't downrate your youtube videos. Someone probably realized how bad they were and did it themselves. I suggest fixing the quality of your product, and stop flattering yourself. I could care less about your guilds crappy strats that aren't even the easiest route of completion.

As far as misinformation goes, its not. I understand you failed to include that in your strat, or didn't know about it and are embarrased, but it works. Whether or not its bugged for you, who knows. We're here to help build the community, not troll it every time someone has a different opinion than us. I suggest you learn to do the same, or this game you think you are so good at will quickly disappear as fast as it emerged.

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CatioNku
01.16.2012 , 08:44 PM | #20
Ok ok ok as much as i love fighting because the struggle of humanity is a personal enjoyment of mine. This is idiotic from both of you, not trying to hurt peoples feelings or anything but just stop (or do it over live chat and invite me because i would love to see this). Fighting gives you both and both of your guilds a bad image and we don't want that do we?

So Ntk thank you for the video because it was very helpful even though i am not 50 and my guild is still building for end game. Artacks please don't come in and say that they may be doing the fight wrong, your guild hasn't downed him yet so from a viewer stand point it makes your comments look less eligible for strategies...

Now I love what your guilds and you guys are doing for the community because i am focusing more on raids in this MMO than PvP like i have in others in the past. So lets all pool our knowledge and experience together and be a constructive community.

That is all... <3