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Argument against LFG


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MaximusRex
01.16.2012 , 05:23 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by shamanmonkey View Post
I'm going to be in the vocal minority here, but I'm happy with how the grouping(or lack of grouping)system stands. Community is made on needs and not desires.

You want a regular endless source of group members?

That's what a guild is for. No good ones? Start one. I did and I haven't pugged a Flashpoint since. And no, they aren't veterans or close friends. We learn together, teach each other, have some laughs and play for fun.

The WoW style LFG tool destroyed the remaining idea of community in that MMO. SWTOR is a breath of fresh air BECAUSE of it's community limitations. You have to build ties, meet friend, talk to people, be charming, learn about generosity, etc.

Hitting a button and getting a group leads to individual army-of-one mentalities and ******s left and right.

We need each other, and my request is the there never is an LFG tool. Otherwise I fear we will again forget that feeling and give up our community for lazy grinds and meaningless progression.

Please site the scientific studies and sources for your claims, otherwise they are just a bunch of hot air.

7 years of playing WoW and the only game experience that LFG changed was the amount of time it took to get a group together. There were just as many jerks prior to LFG as there were after, but after I had to waste less time on them.

The basic concept that making it easier to meet people with which to do team content is anti-social is pretty counter intuitive.

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Avia
01.16.2012 , 05:28 PM | #12
There should be, at a MINIMUM, a channel that is galaxy-wide that can be used for LFG, if they do not want to implement an actual LFG tool. I wish I could work on dailies while looking for a HM group at the same time.

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Raamah
01.16.2012 , 05:34 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Beaverhero View Post
The term "server community" coming from the buggy whip lobby of SWTOR is laughable.

People ARE ALREADY complete ***-hats on my server with the lack of respect for the time of others, gear etiquette and patience for players learning the ropes of tanking and healing..
Oh my god the gear ettiquette is AWFUL. People just roll on a lightsaber because they can equip it without even looking at the stats. So I ***** 'em out and they're like "umad bro? look I can equip it. I can use it too. U mad bro?" Same with armor, they just look at the armor type and not the stats, I can't tell you how many pieces of armor/weapons I have had ninja'd and the people can't even use them.
Listen, you put Bossk on a segway and you're gonna sell records.

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Deviantsoul
01.16.2012 , 05:49 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Romulusss View Post
hit 50 please before you post garbage like this
I'm 50. Never had an issue with groups. Completed every FP while leveling, do heroics when I please with zeron issues. Gonna go ahead and sign my agreement to this. Eff a dungeon finder.

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Caraanam
01.16.2012 , 06:09 PM | #15
there is a LFG tool in place for the server you are on atm...please just don't seem to use it..but it is under "who" of your social panel. you can put that you are lfg there and see who else in your current area is also lfg for what.

I'm not against, LFG tool for the same server..but the cross server stuff is kinda lamo

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Avia
01.16.2012 , 06:44 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Deviantsoul View Post
I'm 50. Never had an issue with groups. Completed every FP while leveling, do heroics when I please with zeron issues. Gonna go ahead and sign my agreement to this. Eff a dungeon finder.
Sorry, but citing your experience from your server has no bearing at all on other servers, so your opinion (in the circumstances that you stated) is completely invalid.

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Deviantsoul
01.17.2012 , 03:06 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Avia View Post
Sorry, but citing your experience from your server has no bearing at all on other servers, so your opinion (in the circumstances that you stated) is completely invalid.
Except for the fact that the person I quoted made a blanket statement regarding being level 50 before posting anything as if that made some massive difference and the opinion of the OP would be swayed by hitting a certain level. Do not discount my opinion just because you dont agree with it. It is perfectly valid. Especially considering I play Republic side, which is the least played faction no matter what server you are on. Furthermore, I am referencing my experience as one who was above the leveling curve (50 by the end of the second week) on my server making it even more difficult to find groups than someone in the leveling process now. It still is not an issue if you use even a fraction of effort. And the amount of time trying to get a group together is no different, and in many cases much much faster, than being a dps in WoW and waiting for their PoS system to match you into a group when tanks queue instantly.

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Cyntax
01.17.2012 , 03:23 PM | #18
As the title says, im so fed up with this game not having an LFG tool, i can't simply care a flying duck about the pro's here arguing about the LFG tool from WoW would destroy this game bla bla bla, not having one WOULD infact destroy this game, as i have absolutly NO intention of subsribing untill it has.

As it stands right now, im not much for PvP, i wanna do Flashpoints, but it takes forever to get groups together, not to mention finding a healer lol... And the groups you DO get together could infact be so inferior that loosing that bad person could ruin your whole group, MOST of the time it actually does destroy the group (Wich is lame as duck)..

Now, SWTOR (EA, BioWare) NEEDS their subscribers, and i really mean ALL of em, the pro's, the noobs, and the CASUALS like me, if they don't, this game turns very fast from a very ANTICIPATED game, to a more, DEAD game within months...

Now, give me this LFG tool ASAP, the current tool is pure garbage.

I couldnt care less about Cross Realm LFG, but a more Automated ON REALM LFG tool, thats my idea, FOR NOW.. Untill the realm LFG tool becomes inferior that is..

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Jed_the_machine
01.17.2012 , 03:25 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by MaximusRex View Post
7 years of playing WoW and the only game experience that LFG changed was the amount of time it took to get a group together.

one more thing changed as well - players were doing even less quests then before. to the point when you could actually do almost no quests at all, just level on doing lfg dungeons.

and since SW:TOR is much more story based, maybe Bioware doesnt want players to level by running same flashpoint 8 times and then mowving to another one, without being ;out in the world' at all.



just an idea, it also possible that they simply dont have a tool for it yet

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Xilap
01.17.2012 , 03:28 PM | #20
If you want a server wide lfg channel then just make one that is what someone on my server did. Right click the general tab at the top of the chat box click creat new channel and name it lfg then tell people in general about it and try to get others advertising about it.