Operatives: Most broken garbage balance ever.

Read what he wrote. Full pVp gear operatives are ridiculous on anyone not in full PvP gear. Not to say this particular Operative was not a complete A-hole.

hes doing exactly what they are designed to do. Why were you rushing out without help, why were you not working with team ? I know... because you were rambo'ing it ... as usual in BG farming. This crusade you people are on, is so silly. Your hoping that posting post after post after post, an making each consecutive one more dramatic than the last will force bioware to give you what you want. Then you will move onto next class....

Beats me why you are on a pvp server in first place. You will notice a common thread to these complaints, its all done in BG farming. World pvp this doesn't happen.

if the two you are takling about are a battlemaster powertech with a battlemaster merc healer who is guarded then...um no.

even in equal gear popping consumables you arent giong to break open that powertech or that merc

Operatives really need to be toned down.

Their opening stun and damage followed by subsequent CCs, Vanish and Heal are just too much.

I'm at 500 Expertise, Medium armor and an Operative can just take my health down 70% before I get out of the stun(assuming stun break ability is on cooldown).

The fact that they can sneak up and do such massive damage is just ridiculous.

I've had this situation, myself, going up against that set. Any time defensive CDs or whitebar happens it's a lot of chain interrupting. If they're not whitebarred it's possible to just CC lock them out of their defensive shield while beating on the other.

A tank+medic is supposed to be synergetically devastating but just like our operative friend, they're still very well killable if played against correctly.

Okay...

Lets say the damage is nerfed so that they take off...15% of your HP. The rest of the damage they do is meh at best.

Ops/Scoundrels have NO gap closers. We can slow you, but most can knock us back, knock back+root, root, sprint, leap away, stun, etc.

We have 1 damage mitigation skill that basically makes us invulnerable for 3 sec. I guess that's good for a heal.

Take a look at all those leet Ops PvP videos. Notice that most Operatives are ignored while out in the open. Ask an Operative you know how fast they are blasted down once they are "focused" on.

We have a hard hit that requires positioning and stealth. We can't close gaps, and most of the 4 hit deaths people have experienced are at the hands of Champions and above, with stacking biochem against targets a that are typically sub-50.

So...after that hard opener is nerfed. What to do with the class?

Okay...

Lets say the damage is nerfed so that they take off...15% of your HP. The rest of the damage they do is meh at best.

Ops/Scoundrels have NO gap closers. We can slow you, but most can knock us back, knock back+root, root, sprint, leap away, stun, etc.

We have 1 damage mitigation skill that basically makes us invulnerable for 3 sec. I guess that's good for a heal.

Take a look at all those leet Ops PvP videos. Notice that most Operatives are ignored while out in the open. Ask an Operative you know how fast they are blasted down once they are "focused" on.

We have a hard hit that requires positioning and stealth. We can't close gaps, and most of the 4 hit deaths people have experienced are at the hands of Champions and above, with stacking biochem against targets a that are typically sub-50.

So...after that hard opener is nerfed. What to do with the class?