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People who ninja for their companions

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Pythoris
01.16.2012 , 03:42 PM | #481
Quote: Originally Posted by SlimsPicken View Post
And congratulations. You are an idiot.

Need is for player characters. I have 5 companions who span the range of nearly every single gear type. So, what, I NEED on every drop? No.

Wise up.
Didn't take long for you to resort to namecalling, did it?

Tel me, where is this rule written that need is only for player characters? Is it in the contract to play swtor? Will BW ban you if you're found needing for companions? Is it a law somewhere?

Hint: If you have to say NO to all three of those questions, then that "rule" about needing only for player characters is more like a simple guuideline some people, like yourself, follow. Not everyone follows the exact same guidelines, nor do they have to.
Inquisitor > all other classes. Yep, I totally went there.

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tcalusine
01.16.2012 , 03:51 PM | #482
just because its not a hard coded rule doesn't mean you cant exercise some decency, common sense and sensitivity to other players in YOUR community.

I bet most of these people who cant find groups in flashpoints are blackisted jerks like you. I never have an issue with grouping and make friends with them afterwards for more fun raids later.

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bboudreaux
01.16.2012 , 03:53 PM | #483
Quote: Originally Posted by Skaara View Post
It's not a ninja if he can use it including the companion. Companions are part of the game so you might want to just get used to that fact. I know I won't hesitate even for a second to need on a item for my companions.
If the companion is not present in the group then it's a HUGE NO NO.

From what you are saying is, it's also ok to roll need for alts

Can't wait to see you spam chat about being kicked from groups for needing items for your companion
Bioware, you did a fantastic job!! Please don't ruin the game making it easy mode with mods and add on capabilities.

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bboudreaux
01.16.2012 , 03:54 PM | #484
Quote: Originally Posted by Pythoris View Post
Didn't take long for you to resort to namecalling, did it?

Tel me, where is this rule written that need is only for player characters? Is it in the contract to play swtor? Will BW ban you if you're found needing for companions? Is it a law somewhere?

Hint: If you have to say NO to all three of those questions, then that "rule" about needing only for player characters is more like a simple guuideline some people, like yourself, follow. Not everyone follows the exact same guidelines, nor do they have to.
By your definition it's ok to roll need for alts then
Bioware, you did a fantastic job!! Please don't ruin the game making it easy mode with mods and add on capabilities.

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Pythoris
01.16.2012 , 03:55 PM | #485
Quote: Originally Posted by tcalusine View Post
just because its not a hard coded rule doesn't mean you cant exercise some decency, common sense and sensitivity to other players in YOUR community.

I bet most of these people who cant find groups in flashpoints are blackisted jerks like you. I never have an issue with grouping and make friends with them afterwards for more fun raids later.
lol Oh please do step down off your soapbox.

So all of a sudden it's "indecent" to need for companions. Why? Because it doesn't go by your guidelines? Wanna know what's really indecent? Expecting everyone to play the same way you do, instead of getting in groups that agree to the same guidelines that you go by.

News flash: The MMO universe does not revolve around your style of play. Try researching the groups guidelines on looting before you group up with them. I promise you'll have a much easier time.
Inquisitor > all other classes. Yep, I totally went there.

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profaneascension
01.16.2012 , 03:58 PM | #486
Quote: Originally Posted by Pythoris View Post
Tel me, where is this rule written that need is only for player characters? Is it in the contract to play swtor? Will BW ban you if you're found needing for companions? Is it a law somewhere?

Hint: If you have to say NO to all three of those questions, then that "rule" about needing only for player characters is more like a simple guuideline some people, like yourself, follow. Not everyone follows the exact same guidelines, nor do they have to.
There's no rule in real life that you have to hold the door open for someone walking behind you. There are no written rules for a lot of things that people do out of simple decency. And yeah, I think playing an MMO is part of "real life" because, after all, even though you're dealing with anonymous strangers on the Internet, you're still dealing with living, breathing people behind the controls.

And by the way, he may have called you a name, but you also didn't answer his question.
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Caille
01.16.2012 , 04:01 PM | #487
I hate the fact that it is becoming an issue.

And so to solve it, we went back to posted loot rules at a run's beginning.

"Need before greed, Need precedence is taken by player characters, Need for your primary companion comes before Greed, everyone state the name and gear type of your primary companion in chat please. You should not be rolling need on anything a player needs, if no player needs it Primary companion Needs are next, finally if no one needs it, Greed it. Please wait until a player who can use an item has said they do not need it before Needing for a companion. You can only need for your declared primary companion, please type AGREE in caps in chat if you understand this"


And as a secondary measure, I do not PUG a player in a guild group if I do not have to. But the above really covers how we handle ourselves in ventrilo. Player > Primary Companion > Greed/Other companions.


Is it a PITA, yes, but companions are a part of character progression for better or worse. At least for solo questing and some Heroic situations or Normal flashpoints.

Stated loot rules are the safest, easiest, oldest, most tried and true way to prevent issues. Chat logs also give Developers an easier recourse in the event of issues.



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Pythoris
01.16.2012 , 04:10 PM | #488
Quote: Originally Posted by profaneascension View Post
There's no rule in real life that you have to hold the door open for someone walking behind you. There are no written rules for a lot of things that people do out of simple decency. And yeah, I think playing an MMO is part of "real life" because, after all, even though you're dealing with anonymous strangers on the Internet, you're still dealing with living, breathing people behind the controls.

And by the way, he may have called you a name, but you also didn't answer his question.
Oh, I answered his question in a way. You simply didn't pay close enough attention to what I said. Also, calling names is what children and grown-ups who aren't mature enough to express themselves with intelligent conversation resort to. Ad, given the fact that he expects people to play the way he wants them to play or else he'll stick his bottom lip out and cry "unfair", I'm frankly not surprised to see him resort to such a tactic. Also, he didn't call me a name, he called someone else a name. More proof you didn't pay close enough attention.

Needing for companions or alts is not "unfair". Your alts need items too. Your comps need items too. If you have a problem with people needing for alts or comps, then here's a simple, logical solution. It really doesn't even take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

Try getitng in a group that agrees aginst needing for anyone except player characters. Yes, it might take an extra amount of effort on your part, but it's not hard. Heck, I've done it myself before, and I'm not exactly a genius. All it takes is the ability to think, plan, and calculate, for pete's sake.
Inquisitor > all other classes. Yep, I totally went there.

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tcalusine
01.16.2012 , 04:17 PM | #489
Quote: Originally Posted by Pythoris View Post
lol Oh please do step down off your soapbox.

So all of a sudden it's "indecent" to need for companions. Why? Because it doesn't go by your guidelines? Wanna know what's really indecent? Expecting everyone to play the same way you do, instead of getting in groups that agree to the same guidelines that you go by.

News flash: The MMO universe does not revolve around your style of play. Try researching the groups guidelines on looting before you group up with them. I promise you'll have a much easier time.
Overwhelmingly most people in game on my server feel and act EXACTLY as I do and nobody has any issues. I dont scream, rant, annoy people who dont follow this set of decent and friendly rules. I just boot them after explaining why.

I never expected everybody to agree and follow, there will always be faceless internet jerks who troll and do as they please but I wont let it stop me and other decent players from having fun.

Just know that when people boot you, scold you, or otherwise try to correct you. You brought it apon yourslef and don't come back here complaing about not finiding groups or getting booted mid flashpoint.

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iacchius
01.16.2012 , 04:22 PM | #490
Quote: Originally Posted by SnoggyMack View Post
You probably shouldn't have stopped reading though. The advice given was sound.
It was not sound. There is no /roll option so masterloot it pointless. How would you decide which of the agents actually got it?
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