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Fresh 50's screwed after bracket?

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Fresh 50's screwed after bracket?

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Durzaka
01.16.2012 , 10:58 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Repefe View Post
Huge difference that pales in comparison to stats that lvl 10 player has ... makes me wonder what do players not whine about these days. He attacked me when I had half hp ... too OP nerf it.
of course it does, but that doesnt mean the difference won't effect the outcome.

Try fighting someone with 17k hp and 10+% expertise as a fresh 50 and it will feel like you are level 10 fighting a fresh 50, the only difference being in the former you have more skills that do little damage.
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SurgeonFish
01.16.2012 , 10:59 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Durzaka View Post
10% less damage taken, 10% more damage dealt, 10% more heals. That is a big difference.

not to mention atleast 2k, and possibly 5k more hp than the fresh 50. Centurion/championg ear makes a HUGE difference.
Its still 10%, its not as big as you might think, go try it out on a guildie. In the meantime a level 50 fresh out of the box and still wearing level 40 gear wont have nearly as many hp yes, but if they have been 50 for longer then a minute then there is no way there is a 5k hp difference.

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Reenolols
01.16.2012 , 10:59 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Getzl View Post
21 Champion bags, all I've got is boots chest (which I bought) and main hand. oh and a relic.

My friend has a few more bags than me and has offhand and then he got his belt twice.

Doesn't take long? Maybe if you don't have a job and can sit and grind more than a weekend..
If someone spends more time than you what do you expect? No job in the winter means I got to grind away, yeah, but I put in more time and got the gear. It may be RNG, but if you put the time in, you'll get the gear.
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Rhyltran
01.16.2012 , 11:02 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Reenolols View Post
If someone spends more time than you what do you expect? No job in the winter means I got to grind away, yeah, but I put in more time and got the gear. It may be RNG, but if you put the time in, you'll get the gear.
Again. Faulty logic. I was told that at rank 30 by 40's. By the time I was their rank I still had less. Then I was told by rank 50's if I get there I'll have more but I still had far less. RNG means it's random. Given that it's random it's possible to never obtain the piece of gear you want.

It brings back memories of me trying for 6 months of raiding back in vanilla wow to complete my set lol.

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Knifewrench
01.16.2012 , 11:03 AM | #45
If you think there's this wall of progression by people who are already geared against those who aren't... how did the people after the rushers and the premaders get their gear?
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Repefe
01.16.2012 , 11:04 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Durzaka View Post
of course it does, but that doesnt mean the difference won't effect the outcome.

Try fighting someone with 17k hp and 10+% expertise as a fresh 50 and it will feel like you are level 10 fighting a fresh 50, the only difference being in the former you have more skills that do little damage.
10% exp alone amount for 22% dps buff (90% dmg vs 110% dmg) ... popping exp consumable / having cooldowns ready while he does not and the difference is gone. Will top geared player be stronger ? Sure ... but it's not as big as ppl make it.

The thing is in addition to better equip he can also be more experienced/play in premade ... nerf experience and premades.
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Rhyltran
01.16.2012 , 11:05 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Repefe View Post
10% exp alone amount for 22% dps buff (90% dmg vs 110% dmg) ... popping exp consumable / having cooldowns ready while he does not and the difference is gone. Will top geared player be stronger ? Sure ... but it's not as big as ppl make it.

The thing is in addition to better equip he can also be more experienced/play in premade ... nerf experience and premades.
Coming from someone who plays in premades 100% of the time (I refuse to pug.) I wouldn't mind premade vs premade only. I actually prefer fighting premades. Luckily on my server practically everyone rolls in premades. 9 premades going empire side and about 4-6 republic side.

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TUXs
01.16.2012 , 11:05 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by lueckjathom View Post
Seriously what do you want, brackets for levels that are then further bracketed for your gear?

Gotta work for it kiddo, sorry.
Oh, you mean like all the hard working 50's right now did by swapping walkers on Ilium or by farming lower level players in PvP or in Warzones or by exploiting the mail?

OP, you're right. It's absolutely foolish how Bioware is doing this.
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Reenolols
01.16.2012 , 11:05 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhyltran View Post
Again. Faulty logic. I was told that at rank 30 by 40's. By the time I was their rank I still had less. Then I was told by rank 50's if I get their I'll have more but I still had far less. RNG means it's random. Given that it's random it's possible to never obtain the piece of gear you want.

It brings back memories of me trying for 6 months of raiding back in vanilla wow to complete my set lol.
Man it's just called bad luck, and it happens. When you're 60, you get the comms for champ gear, and after tomorrow you'll get comms for BM gear. So post 60 you'll be straight grinding for each piece and it will most likely end up being slower than the RNG system. Many will complain now that it takes too long and want it shortened, because in the end, all they want is the gear without working for it. They'll whine about whatever system they have, because they want it given to them. They are changing it tomorrow.. so everyone will get their so-called wish. But each piece will take over a week(I can't confirm this, as I haven't looked at BM prices on the pts. I'm just guessing according to other gear comm prices.), so we'll see how it turns out.
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Lerdoc
01.16.2012 , 11:06 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by VioletZero View Post
Just because this happens in every MMO doesn't mean BioWare shouldn't have changed it.
How? By making everyone naked? This will be truth and fact for every mmo with gear.