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Tracer Missile Education

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Tracer Missile Education

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Crujido
01.16.2012 , 10:20 AM | #11
My favorite is when it goes around walls and you get a bonus for using the tracer missile to benefit more tracer missiles.

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Qlimitus
01.16.2012 , 10:22 AM | #12
Its not every other person's fault,you can't play your char.Keep on spamming that 1 skill and i'll keep killing you.

That is all.
I got a jar o diiirt,I got a jar o diiirt,I got a jar o diiirt... And guess what's inside iiit..

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AlonzoOdantis
01.16.2012 , 10:24 AM | #13
lol at the envy.

Because spamming force lightning is much more skillful

Because spamming aoe heals are much more skillful

Because hitting "1, 2, 3" is much more skillful than hitting "1, 1, 3"

Tracer missile debuffs armor and loads up our damage. Anyone that doesn't open with 2 tracer missiles is hurting their team.



There's no class in this game that's "hard" to play. If you wanted something that involved high player skill you wouldn't be playing a tab targeting MMO.

Other classes spam just as much but it goes unnoticed because the animations aren't as standout. No decent BH just spams tracer. If you lose to someone who just spams tracer you are a terrible player, and if I can beat you by spamming 1 button, i'm going to do it for the lulz to show everyone "hey look how bad this guy is"

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elumarom
01.16.2012 , 10:25 AM | #14
i see more and more people learn to interrupt tracer missile, this really screws BH/troopper over as he cant stack any of those things and he has to use powershot which is weapon damage so mitigated by a lot of things so crap dmg or heal himself when he does no dmg

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Theballzz
01.16.2012 , 10:25 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by SurgeonFish View Post
You dont have to spam it though, 3 shots and your good. Then fire off your rounds and then fire it 2 more times to refresh your buffs. After that just fire it once and then use one of your other abilities, its not the end all in damage ability.
we dont have other abilitys to use ..

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vindianajones
01.16.2012 , 10:25 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Datajack View Post
I come across a lot of players calling Mercs tracer missile spammers. You see comments like "is that all you do?" and "Tracer Missile spammer". Now personally, it really doesn't bother me because I know those people have no clue why a merc spams this. They see the high damage hits and figure we are a 1 button class. Well guess what?

We spam it because WE HAVE TO. You see, tracer missile gives us 3 important procs:

1) Heat Signature. Talented, we need to fire 3 Tracer Missile to get 5 Heat Signature.
Heat Signature gives us a +15% damage bonus to Heatseeking Missiles. So we must
spam Tracer Missile at least 3 times to get this. Heatseeking missiles is on a 1 min
cooldown.

2) Tracer Lock. Tracer Lock stacks up to 5 times. We get +6% damage per point in the
stack to Rail Shot (15 cooldown). We need to fire 5 tracer missiles to get max damage on rail shot.


3) Barrage Talent. Fully talented, we have a 30% chance to proc this. It will increase our Unload damage by 25%. This is consumed on use and must be restacked. 30% means 3 Tracer Missile spams on average to proc this.


4) Our other high damage dealers (heatseeking missiles, rail shot and unload) all have
cooldowns. HS missiles is 1 minute and the other 2 are 15 sec each. Once our tracer
lock and heat signatures are stacked, we have to fire tracer missiles over and over to
reproc Barrage, or as we wait for the 15 sec/1min cooldowns on our other abilities,
throwing some rapid shots (low damage dealing compared to our other abilites) in
there to manage our heat.


I hope this helps non mercs understand why you see the spamming. Like I said before, the comments really don't bother me and by all means keep them coming if it makes you feel better, but at least be educated on why it happens.
I know it's not the players' fault that this is the case, but the fact is it's still a stupidly simple thing to do for the amount of damage it generates. All you've really done is explain why these AC's are one button mashers. It's because they are designed that way. If the best rotation for a class focuses on one button intertwined with 1-2 other skills, then that's what the players are going to use.

It's not the player behind the keyboard that's bad for using these abilities; it's the design of the class that's bad for encouraging and supporting this damage rotation above all others. You could be the most skilled PvP'er in the world, but if you realize 40 levels in that your most efficient damage output comes from the use and reuse of one skill, aren't you going to use that?

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JediDuckling
01.16.2012 , 10:27 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Datajack View Post
I come across a lot of players calling Mercs tracer missile spammers. You see comments like "is that all you do?" and "Tracer Missile spammer". Now personally, it really doesn't bother me because I know those people have no clue why a merc spams this. They see the high damage hits and figure we are a 1 button class. Well guess what?

We spam it because WE HAVE TO. You see, tracer missile gives us 3 important procs:

1) Heat Signature. Talented, we need to fire 3 Tracer Missile to get 5 Heat Signature.
Heat Signature gives us a +15% damage bonus to Heatseeking Missiles. So we must
spam Tracer Missile at least 3 times to get this. Heatseeking missiles is on a 1 min
cooldown.

2) Tracer Lock. Tracer Lock stacks up to 5 times. We get +6% damage per point in the
stack to Rail Shot (15 cooldown). We need to fire 5 tracer missiles to get max damage on rail shot.


3) Barrage Talent. Fully talented, we have a 30% chance to proc this. It will increase our Unload damage by 25%. This is consumed on use and must be restacked. 30% means 3 Tracer Missile spams on average to proc this.


4) Our other high damage dealers (heatseeking missiles, rail shot and unload) all have
cooldowns. HS missiles is 1 minute and the other 2 are 15 sec each. Once our tracer
lock and heat signatures are stacked, we have to fire tracer missiles over and over to
reproc Barrage, or as we wait for the 15 sec/1min cooldowns on our other abilities,
throwing some rapid shots (low damage dealing compared to our other abilites) in
there to manage our heat.


I hope this helps non mercs understand why you see the spamming. Like I said before, the comments really don't bother me and by all means keep them coming if it makes you feel better, but at least be educated on why it happens.
dont try to justify your OP tracer missiles they clearly need to be nerfed end of story.

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JediDuckling
01.16.2012 , 10:28 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by AlonzoOdantis View Post
lol at the envy.

Because spamming force lightning is much more skillful

Because spamming aoe heals are much more skillful

Because hitting "1, 2, 3" is much more skillful than hitting "1, 1, 3"

Tracer missile debuffs armor and loads up our damage. Anyone that doesn't open with 2 tracer missiles is hurting their team.



There's no class in this game that's "hard" to play. If you wanted something that involved high player skill you wouldn't be playing a tab targeting MMO.

Other classes spam just as much but it goes unnoticed because the animations aren't as standout. No decent BH just spams tracer. If you lose to someone who just spams tracer you are a terrible player, and if I can beat you by spamming 1 button, i'm going to do it for the lulz to show everyone "hey look how bad this guy is"

sorc's aint built like truks and actualy take some damage bounty hunter are tough to take down.

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Theballzz
01.16.2012 , 10:28 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by JediDuckling View Post
dont try to justify your OP tracer missiles they clearly need to be nerfed end of story.
Tear bucket to the left.

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DestyOwn
01.16.2012 , 10:28 AM | #20
TBH

Mercs and Sorc DPS are like 3 buttons class. and they are hybrid . which makes the sniper class that uses 6-8 abilities to get the same DPS as a 2-3 button class, completely ridiculous.

and to top it off they can heal themselves.

thats complete ********.