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swtor-epic experience or epic fail?

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swtor-epic experience or epic fail?

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dlxzor
01.16.2012 , 07:27 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by aVmuse View Post
In reality is not. Its mainly human, sorry to bust your bubble.
Key word being mainly? There are other races too, you know. Too bad we can't play them and instead we have the same boring race reskinned with the same old animations.

Quote: Originally Posted by archifikoss View Post
It has a multitude of races.

They're just not playable
My point exactly.

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aVmuse
01.16.2012 , 07:29 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by archifikoss View Post
It has a multitude of races.

They're just not playable
Maybe one day while get to play as ughnaughts and gungans.

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archifikoss
01.16.2012 , 07:31 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by dlxzor View Post
Key word being mainly? There are other races too, you know. Too bad we can't play them and instead we have the same boring race reskinned with the same old animations.



My point exactly.
It makes sense though in the context of the game that exotic races (say Wookiees) or races with less "human" expression (say Rodians) are not playable.

However, there are a number of races who look "human" enough and could have easily been included: Togruta, Chagrian, Cathar, Pau'an, Devaronian... Even Nautolan and Duros to a slightly lesser extent.

I'm hoping for some of these races to be made playable eventually, though I really don't know if my wish will be granted...

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Ricanther
01.16.2012 , 07:31 AM | #54
This game is what you make it out to be. Whether the content suits you or not, people will continue to unsubscribe, and people will continue to play. I haven't found the content quite as enjoyable as I had anticipated, but for those that continue playing, good for you.

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ashkimlou
01.16.2012 , 07:35 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by cesmode View Post
I am really enjoying this game.

I, for one, was never into the whole RP scene, or really cared about the Story while playing other MMOs. During my 6 year MMO experience, Ive played many games. While I knew what the basic story was, some more than others, I never cared about my "role" in the "world". Taking my time to level up in SWTOR has really been enjoyable.

With that said, the immense story isnt for everyone. Some people like to rush to 50 and do end game stuff. It is their dime. I just ask that people at 50 be patient with the game. WoW had its major issues during launch, now look at it. SWTOR had a more succesful launch than WoW. I can see this game garnering a large player base, with many end game functions.

Be patient. The game has been out less than a month. Enjoy the game for what it is right now, a story driven MMO. Do not expect it to be raid/endgame/pvp heavy just yet. Let them work out the kinks, figure out what works and doesnt, what the community really wants and doesnt, and give them time to impliment it. You will regret it if you quit a game that has been out for only a month, that has years of development in it.

This is truely an amazing game.
I do agree with this statement and don t get me wrong the leveling experience is wonderful just started doing my jedi sage and really enjoying it with more understanding of the game then doing my first char. All i m saying is this is kinda annoying when the flashpoints are there but broken so bioware let you go in for 2 hrs get 100k repair bill just to find its bugged. why can t they close the instance cos for them 2 hrs i could have been leveling and not wasting my time in there. I also don t see the game as just leveling you have to take some pride in your char when you reach 50 and doing dailys, flashpoint and codex are all part of that so being bugged is well just frustrating.

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Poisonsenvy
01.16.2012 , 07:36 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by mutharex View Post
I think you are confusing things here, one thins is "not having features" another is "being buggy". The first part, the one you seem to refer, is largely SUBJECTIVE, as in: you think LFD and addons are a FUNDAMENTAL part of a MMO, many other people disapprove. As a matter of fact, I left Rift after they introduced the LFG tool.

Also, it's your opinion (and thank god you are a minority here too) that this game is TERRIBLE while most people will tell you this is the best launch of an MMO in years. I was in Rift, while the launch was pretty smooth, that game didn't have the same amount of people TOR had at launch and that counts toward glitches and technical problems.

I think you are overexaggerating. This is probably not the game you WANTED, that doesn't make it TERRIBLE (actually, seen your TASTES, I am happy it turned out like this!)
No the guys right swtor release was like a 2007 mmo release not a 2012. Fyi yea in 2012 MMO's need to be polished and have modern standard features like a LFD, High Res settings(that were advertised), customizable/scalable UI, macro(if you want them if not don't use them)and no game breaking bugs especially for endgame content. This is not much to ask and is standard in any modern MMO releasing in 2012. To accept anything less is just sad and these aren't unreasonable expectations at all. People need to stop being fanboys for a second and ban together to demand much needed improvements to a game we all want to see succeed. If you think just closing a blind eye to the problems and defending the flaws will only hurt the game in the long run and ultimately cause the game to fail like dcuo did. Sad thing there still fanboys defending that failed mess. I just don't want swtor to be in the same boat 4-5 months down the line.

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aVmuse
01.16.2012 , 07:37 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Poisonsenvy View Post
No the guys right swtor release was like a 2007 mmo release not a 2012. Fyi yea in 2012 MMO's need to be polished and have modern standard features like a LFD, High Res settings(that were advertised), customizable/scalable UI, macro(if you want them if not don't use them)and no game breaking bugs especially for endgame content. This is not much to ask and is standard in any modern MMO releasing in 2012.
Make your own MMO, and we'll see how polished it is for a 20XX MMO

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KhealThar
01.16.2012 , 07:38 AM | #58
It's hilarious what people consider game breaking bugs these days.

I don't understand how you can say the game doesn't make you feel heroic. From the first level they throw you into conflicts that no one else can handle.

Were you expecting to solo 1000 people in an MMO? Seriously? Take a look at every MMO leveling experience then come back to SWTOR. It's pretty obvious which is more heroic and awesome.

You're just a bunch of kids who are never satisfied with anything. I can't wait until GW2 comes out so you can complain on the forums about that too.
Those who beg for mercy are too weak to deserve it.

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Jonnymacattack
01.16.2012 , 07:40 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by mutharex View Post
I think you are confusing things here, one thins is "not having features" another is "being buggy". The first part, the one you seem to refer, is largely SUBJECTIVE, as in: you think LFD and addons are a FUNDAMENTAL part of a MMO, many other people disapprove. As a matter of fact, I left Rift after they introduced the LFG tool.

Also, it's your opinion (and thank god you are a minority here too) that this game is TERRIBLE while most people will tell you this is the best launch of an MMO in years. I was in Rift, while the launch was pretty smooth, that game didn't have the same amount of people TOR had at launch and that counts toward glitches and technical problems.

I think you are overexaggerating. This is probably not the game you WANTED, that doesn't make it TERRIBLE (actually, seen your TASTES, I am happy it turned out like this!)
I never said anything about a LFG tool or addons. Where did you get that? I am commenting more on the bugs, always the bugs. Ability delay, poorly optimized engine, graphical tears (not my video card, refer to the 1000 other threads about it), dropping high res textures because the engine cant do it, an empty and lifeless world, important class quests not working, endgame dungeons not giving loot, etc etc etc....

And honestly, I understand that these can be acceptable things at launch (even though they shouldnt be), but the fact that they have been things talked about for several betas (i was there for a few of them), and they STILL havent fixed them.

Looking at the patch notes for this game, they are adding vehicle emotes and baby names, but not fixing some glaring issues that another game (rift) has proven it can fix in a short amount of time (http://forums.riftgame.com/official-...es/index3.html).

Like I said in my previous post, im not a Rift fanboy, i dont even play, but rift shows that SWTOR is not meeting the development standards of a 2012 MMO. That is why this game is currently failing, even if casual players are still having fun.

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aVmuse
01.16.2012 , 07:40 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by KhealThar View Post
It's hilarious what people consider game breaking bugs these days.

I don't understand how you can say the game doesn't make you feel heroic. From the first level they throw you into conflicts that no one else can handle.

Were you expecting to solo 1000 people in an MMO? Seriously? Take a look at every MMO leveling experience then come back to SWTOR. It's pretty obvious which is more heroic and awesome.

You're just a bunch of kids who are never satisfied with anything. I can't wait until GW2 comes out so you can complain on the forums about that too.
It might have a similar green line problem, therefore the game has a bug, and must be game-breaking ?!?!?!?!??!?! *flails around*