Mitigation, the REAL problem. Also, operatives need a 2x dmg multiplier.

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Mitigation, the REAL problem. Also, operatives need a 2x dmg multiplier.

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Daex

01.16.2012 , 01:21 AM \| #931
Quote: Originally Posted by Denubisx lets say u are a tank, and you get hit by each move once from every single class in the game. in this example, you are telling me that tanks who have ~33% shield chance in good gear should only shield around 15 total attacks per game and more or less avoid 0 with accuracy being so high and defense being so bugged? and if it is true that u dont actually shield crit hits............ just HAHA at your reasoning thanks for trolling seriously bump this needs to be looked at. You are so sure that you are right about this aren't you. Can't wait for Dev state on this to break your dreams. Have you even tried being hit by someone EXCLUSIVELY by attacks that you can dodge/parry/shield? You can just sit there and do nothing and stay alive for prolonged period of time. That's just silly and I guarantee you, they didn't intend tanks to be able to achieve this.

Abatement

01.16.2012 , 01:56 AM \| #932
Quote: Originally Posted by Flarenza How are Powertechs the best? They have worse defensive cooldowns compared to Jugs, and the 31 pt talent is very poor compared to both other types. Simple they have 2% more damage reduction, 16% more armor, and rely the least on things that crits ignore.
ಠ_ಠ Really?

Nyko_Rhyss

01.16.2012 , 02:20 AM \| #933
I was wondering a thing i didn't found in this topic : (and sorry for my english) About damage you receive by "guard" ability, can it be shielded all the time, not regarding what type of damage it is on the player guarded ?

Neurok

01.16.2012 , 02:40 AM \| #934
Quote: Originally Posted by Nyko_Rhyss I was wondering a thing i didn't found in this topic : (and sorry for my english) About damage you receive by "guard" ability, can it be shielded all the time, not regarding what type of damage it is on the player guarded ? I think the guard damage can not be mitigated.. Feels like it anyway

Nyko_Rhyss

01.16.2012 , 02:46 AM \| #935
Quote: Originally Posted by Neurok I think the guard damage can not be mitigated.. Feels like it anyway OP seems to talk about "true damage" but i'm sure to understand... I tried a little but i die so fast... i'm not good enought against 50's...

Daex

01.16.2012 , 03:25 AM \| #936
Quote: Originally Posted by Nyko_Rhyss OP seems to talk about "true damage" but i'm sure to understand... I tried a little but i die so fast... i'm not good enought against 50's... No more 50s for you from tomorrow!

dakalro

01.16.2012 , 03:43 AM \| #937
Easy fix, spec DPS, use tanking stance, you lose minimal mitigation. On the other hand tank mitigation is somewhat fine, if we'd always be attacked by 1 of each class. On top of that I haven't seen my sentinel friend die either when we queued as shadow tank, sentinel and scoundrel healer. He's also a much better carrier in hutball and I can do a lot more as support if he's the one being focused. I just guard him or healer depending on situation, there's no point being carrier as a tank at this moment. The biggest issues seem to be getting defense stats on PvP set without much use for them and the imbalance of mitigation between different sources of damage (classes). Against some we are immortal, against others we might as well be DPS with extra hp ... which is negated by guard. In the end the game lacks balancing, they randomly set the tags for attack types and damage types without any thought to how things interract in PvP (PvE seems ok).

Khabarach

01.16.2012 , 05:37 AM \| #938
Quote: Originally Posted by Flarenza How are Powertechs the best? They have worse defensive cooldowns compared to Jugs, and the 31 pt talent is very poor compared to both other types. I wouldn't necessarily say that, most Juggs don't bother with their 31 point talent as 11 points in other trees are better.

Samurro

01.16.2012 , 05:42 AM \| #939
Great post, needs official attention! Edit: I read through most of the stuff and I agree with everything BESIDS don't make guard ignore mitigation, there is no real reason for this, I am not even sure it counts in mitigation in its current form nerf rage specc and the jedi pendant make taunts provide protection points in pvp
Style > Skill > Stats Darth Suffocation - Open World PVP

thespareaccount

01.16.2012 , 06:24 AM \| #940
Taunt SHOULD provide protection points in Warzones so we look like we are doing something and can actually compare our effectiveness.

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