Stop complaining about EXPERTISE

No, MMOs are all about playing with large numbers of other players. That is the definition.

The progression treadmill is a way to addict players rather than making a good game, and if that is truly all that TOR is, I won't be sticking around. I'm almost upset that I got pulled into it in the first place by my friends.

This is not good game design, no matter how addictive it is to some people.

Just becaue you PvPed for 100 hours does not mean you should insta gib someone who PvEed. I am not saying you should not win or have advantage, but having "PvP Stat" (especially one as broken as Expertise) is the lazy way out of developing. So many free MMOs out ther have came up with more ways to deal with this, that could be modeled to fit a PTP game.

Just becaue you leveled for 100 hours does not mean you should insta gib someone who did not level. I am not saying you should not win or have advantage, but having Levels is the lazy way out of developing. So many free MMOs out ther have came up with more ways to deal with this, that could be modeled to fit a PTP game.

Expertise isn't the problem...the problem is that gear shouldn't have a role in determining the outcome of a PvP match. Why should you have a competetive advantage over me because you've played longer. The most talented player should be the winner in any match, not the one who spent the most time grinding gear.

yeah thats right so lets all PVP with our character in his/her underwear gear should not be allowed, or weapons come to that only hair pulling and spitting allowed. PMSL

+1, well more like +1000.

Gear progression didn't even exist in MMO's in its current state until Everquest released its class craftable armors, which was a great idea, but then after that started opening the "Planes" which did class gear drops.

MMO's prior to that were more about acquisition of the best things possible but not in a gated manner. In UO for example you could literally BUY the best set of dex monkey gear there was, without all this grinding through dungeons trash, then spend your day wandering around killing people cause they couldn't hit you or avoid your attacks. Not saying that was super good as an example of game design cause it actually highlights an old UO balance issue, but deal is, the whole idea of having to "grind" for gear at all in MMO's is not good game design, its built around the concepts of psychological addiction. And developers purposefully exploit this design schema with the intent of creating a psychological addiction of almost Pavlovian standards in their user base, so their user base stays subscribed and continues to shell out cash for subs and expansions.

God forbid a company try to make money right? I know, it sounds like I'm some kind of flaming hippy and I'm not, but I think you'd probably have an issue with me if I ran an ice cream shop and your kids were addicted to my crap because I willfully put crack cocaine in the mix when I made my ice cream. And thats sorta what MMO developers do these days.

They know they're exploiting a psychological addiction that many online gamers are susceptible to. And thus they don't do anything different because it makes money.

R.J. Reynolds doesn't have to start trying to sell cabbage cigarettes cause people are addicted to tobacco, same goes for MMO designers.

They forgot that Massively Multiplayer means I get to play the game with lots of people and enjoy an experience that requires a lot of other players to fully enjoy the length and breadth of the content, and they're more focused on making content they can design to singularly attempt to turn each individual customer into an addict. WoW already showed how to do that, so people keep pushing the same junk and hoping for the same returns.

You can't go into a raid as a fresh 50.. You have to grind out the gear or 'Resolution" as you so put a title on it..

I already stated they needed a starter pvp set thats easily attaintable to ease a fresh 50 into pvp.

You also can't make the top end purple crafts without doing hardmodes to get the mat for them.

Don't pick and choose your arguements against mine. It isn't working for you.

I get it. You want everything to stay stale as soon as you hit 50. You want your alt to have the exact same attributes/abilities/stats/gear that your main that you spent say 100 hours on playing at lvl 50 has. In fact lvling to lvl 2 in your Utopian MMO is a nono and counter productive.

You are being unrealistic.

There is a linear path for every part of every single MMO starting from char creation. Deal with it or unsub.

You still didn't answer the question. Any plans on joining the rest of the meat in the grinder on a "fresh 50" yourself? Probably not.

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