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Stop complaining about EXPERTISE

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Stop complaining about EXPERTISE

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Coinkee
01.16.2012 , 02:50 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
The issue is that gear intrinsically introduces imbalance in an event that is meant to be a means for players to test their skills against one another in a reasonably fair manner.

To be perfectly honest, allowing gear in PvP at all is like giving the Cowboys 8 points on every touch-down and the Texans only 6 because the Cowboys are an older franchise, and therefor deserve to win more than the new team.
the cowboys NEED an 8 pt touchdown cuz they suck that bad =P

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Razot
01.16.2012 , 02:50 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
The issue is that gear intrinsically introduces imbalance in an event that is meant to be a means for players to test their skills against one another in a reasonably fair manner.

To be perfectly honest, allowing gear in PvP at all is like giving the Cowboys 8 points on every touch-down and the Texans only 6 because the Cowboys are an older franchise, and therefor deserve to win more than the new team.
I prefer the analogy of.. Only the Yankees can use steriods.

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Coinkee
01.16.2012 , 02:51 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
Then remove gear from players when they enter a WZ. You keep everyone in the same gear for the longest time possible that way: Forever.
And you lose their monthly sub because there is no progression for them.

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rdyornot
01.16.2012 , 02:54 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
I'm a fan of No Gear in PvP, honestly.
I have some sad news for you then...

SWTOR is gear based just like most other MMO's

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Monkeybusiness
01.16.2012 , 02:55 AM | #125
People are raging because of a dmg buff/reduction of maximum 10%?

Pvp gear is accessible to everyone and the T2 pvp set is fairly easy to obtain.
If you're scared of getting facerolled by someone who has battlemaster/champion, get a buddy to help you.

PvP is a TEAM based game, you can win huttball by positioning yourself on the right places.
Voidstar = Harass. Alderaan, create a patrol group.

I won voidstar against a group 50's with me as a little lvl 38 sorc as highest lvl in my team.

Skill still takes a priority.

It took blizzard almost 3 years to get resi in the same condition as expertise.
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SandTrout
01.16.2012 , 02:56 AM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Coinkee View Post
And you lose their monthly sub because there is no progression for them.
No, they just go grind PvE because that is where they 'progress'.
Nerf not, lest ye be nerfed.

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SandTrout
01.16.2012 , 02:57 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by Monkeybusiness View Post
People are raging because of a dmg buff/reduction of maximum 10%?

Pvp gear is accessible to everyone and the T2 pvp set is fairly easy to obtain.
If you're scared of getting facerolled by someone who has battlemaster/champion, get a buddy to help you.

PvP is a TEAM based game, you can win huttball by positioning yourself on the right places.
Voidstar = Harass. Alderaan, create a patrol group.

I won voidstar against a group 50's with me as a little lvl 38 sorc as highest lvl in my team.

Skill still takes a priority.

It took blizzard almost 3 years to get resi in the same condition as expertise.
Just because something can be overcome does not mean that it is inconsequential. What you're doing here is hand-waving an obvious flaw.
Nerf not, lest ye be nerfed.

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Coinkee
01.16.2012 , 02:57 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
No, they just go grind PvE because that is where they 'progress'.
Uhmm.. No

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Ashes_Arizona
01.16.2012 , 02:58 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Coinkee View Post
And that is a problem.. Why? That just means people of equal skill will balance out when the pvp specced people get their gear. and you'll get your pve specced *** handed to you once they are equally geared.

What's the issue?
The issue is readily apparent. I'm on a gimped class, owning people, because of the gear I have on.

Seriously if you put my 50 Jugg up against a 50 Trooper in equal PvP gear....I flat out die cause I can't go one vs one against gravround+Kolto Field and Expertise, I just don't have the DPS or ability to survive it.

Same Trooper in level 50 PvE gear? He'll die trying to kill me. Cause he can't damage me enough, even though hes throwing tech damage at me and I'm completely gimped against tech damage right now til someone at BWA figures out what they did wrong in regards to resists.

And in your view thats good? Cause in my view its blatant evidence that Expertise trumps everything. And having one magic stat trump everything in PvP is ridiculous.

If you ensure end game PvP and end game PvE gear does not outpaced each other in gear rating, then everyone has the same equal chance in both scenarios, and you're not penalized in PvP because you spent your game time doing PvE, or vice versa.

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SandTrout
01.16.2012 , 02:59 AM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Coinkee View Post
Uhmm.. No
Why not? If progress, and not fun gameplay, is the only thing that keeps people playing PvP, then logically they would just play PvE so that they could progress through the gear.

That is, unless they don't actually care about progressing their characters and they only care about having an unfair advantage over others.
Nerf not, lest ye be nerfed.