Why PvP is never fun in MMOs

OK basically.

If i meet not geared player on warzone it is: clairvoyent, clairvoyent, project, force breach, whirlwind and it is over.

There is no skill requiered there. They can't do dmg to me and i just destroy them.

The fun starts when you meet equally geared player. And it is even better when you both have your consumables on cooldowns. Then it actually starts being fun. Def cooldown rotation. Right timing on trinket. Tactical use of stuns, and all that fun stuff.


Gear is the most important factor on WZ when you meet oponents. Skill gets involved at the moment you actually meet equally geared guy.

By all means, the next time you PvP, take off all of your gear and see just how good your are. Or buy yourself a bunch of level 35-45 greens and see how good you are. If you think gear means very little, you're sorely mistaken.

Valor directly relates to the gear you have access to. However, you're also correct that it's not a perfect system. A better system would keep track of your PvP activities and rank you based on outcome the way Arena works in WoW.

Well, its a gating mechanic that shows time invested, which should be a decent indicator of how knowledgable a person is, though when practically applied, is just wishful thinking, sadly.

I really enjoyed Warhammer pvp... I did not enjoy the year and a half nerfest on Magus and the buff fest on Bright Wizard. PVP in this game will get better, just got to give it time. I just wish they would lock features off when there was clearly an issue instead of allowing people to exploit the hell out of crap first.

But for match making it would be flawed. I'll use myself as an example.

I really wanted to PvP all the way through my levels, but I was playing with a friend who was not interested in doing it. I ended up PvP'ing far less on my main than I wanted to, and spent a lot of time doing it on alts so I wouldn't out level him by much.

Now I'm 50 and only 3-4 pieces of my gear do not have expertise on them, but my valor is only in the high 30's. I see plenty of people well below my level on my server who have titles indicating a much higher level of valor than I do.

So in that regard, valor is not an accurate indication of my knowledge, and not my expertise gear either (even more so since the reward system is somewhat random), which would make it no indicator for match making. This is what the OP needs to realize.