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Mitigation, the REAL problem. Also, operatives need a 2x dmg multiplier.

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Mitigation, the REAL problem. Also, operatives need a 2x dmg multiplier.

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Tharenisis
01.15.2012 , 10:31 PM | #921
Quote: Originally Posted by Avison View Post
In addition recent testing has revealed that having a high crit rating makes it impossible to trigger shields as well.

Basically... you can't shield crits. This is still being tested.

I remember reading something about this a week or two ago, it was people argueing over whether or not the shield prevented crits, or the crits prevented shields. Do we have any numbers on this at all?

This would make our shields practically useless in a pvp situation!
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Darkpiggy
01.15.2012 , 10:51 PM | #922
Fist Bump. This needs to be addressed.
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lethal_ghost
01.15.2012 , 10:52 PM | #923
This kind of explains why my dark ward counters don't really go down that quick even when being hit alot

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Abatement
01.15.2012 , 11:13 PM | #924
if that is the case then hands down Powertechs are the best tanks for both pvp and pve. If your and assassin or jugg you might as well reroll.
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Flarenza
01.15.2012 , 11:38 PM | #925
How are Powertechs the best? They have worse defensive cooldowns compared to Jugs, and the 31 pt talent is very poor compared to both other types.

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Daex
01.15.2012 , 11:53 PM | #926
Quote: Originally Posted by ltankhsd View Post
99% of all statistics on the internet are made up on the spot. See how that works?

Here is a HARD NUMBER for you. There are 44 attacks on the Empire side and I assume there are the same on Republic side which ARE affected by shields. Are you trying to tell me that nobody uses any of those FOURTY FOUR attacks?

p.s. I made a list of those attacks on something like page 76.
There's no point m8. This topic's Logic Resolve bar is bugged on full(white).

Basically main argument they have is that only armor is good and shields/defenses suck.

Well, any tank who's worth his weight will take extra defenses even if they have bit less of an impact than some boost to dps (which is obviously terrible since they are tanks).

Someone here used the said DPS gear in tank specc and managed to get a 4k crit while maintaining decent defenses. Guess what - that's just terrible. DPS specc of a juggernaut for example can rock 9k aoe on lowbie/ungeared targets as we've seen from a certain screenshot.

Numbers are, of course, completely irrelevant as 50 bracket and no consumables stacking are coming tomorrow, but it serves well as an example.

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VoidSpectre
01.15.2012 , 11:54 PM | #927
Quote: Originally Posted by Tharenisis View Post
I remember reading something about this a week or two ago, it was people argueing over whether or not the shield prevented crits, or the crits prevented shields. Do we have any numbers on this at all?

This would make our shields practically useless in a pvp situation!

sad news indeed

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Denubisx
01.15.2012 , 11:59 PM | #928
Quote: Originally Posted by ltankhsd View Post
99% of all statistics on the internet are made up on the spot. See how that works?

Here is a HARD NUMBER for you. There are 44 attacks on the Empire side and I assume there are the same on Republic side which ARE affected by shields. Are you trying to tell me that nobody uses any of those FOURTY FOUR attacks?

p.s. I made a list of those attacks on something like page 76.
lets say u are a tank, and you get hit by each move once from every single class in the game.

in this example, you are telling me that tanks who have ~33% shield chance in good gear should only shield around 15 total attacks per game and more or less avoid 0 with accuracy being so high and defense being so bugged?

and if it is true that u dont actually shield crit hits............

just HAHA at your reasoning

thanks for trolling

seriously bump this needs to be looked at.
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thasaint
01.16.2012 , 01:17 AM | #929
Still waiting for official word.
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Spyritwind
01.16.2012 , 01:18 AM | #930
I just hit 48 tonight and have been developing a stealth tank 27/14/0. A few levels back I used all Defense/Shield Enhancements which seemed to be fine for PvE, but sucked for PvP. I didn't have any durability and my modest DPS was even worse. I went back to Crit/Surge Enhancements.

Shields need to affect every attack in the game, or nearly any attack other wise it's pretty pointless; especially for PvP. It's hard enough to find a tank to run an instance/raid/dungeon with out screwing the class over in PvP which will only discourage people from running one.

If this doesn't get corrected tanks will most likely be PvE only characters.

Warhammer had good playable tanks for PvP.