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Reply from Bioware regarding using Group Stealth to Plant Bombs in Voidstar

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Reply from Bioware regarding using Group Stealth to Plant Bombs in Voidstar

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BushidoRaven
01.15.2012 , 10:02 PM | #61
Another broken mechanic. Just like Bioware to own up to there mistakes. Not.
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EternalFinality
01.15.2012 , 10:23 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Jamber View Post
You're on a damn team. You're not Rambo, you don't have to go it alone. As a team, 2 people guard one door, don't leave it alone! DUH! And if you can't handle that, because you queue alone and refuse to play as a team cause you're in a group full of randoms, then of course you're gonna lose to an opponent's teamwork...
Actually, in Voidstar and in Alderaan, you very often are the only person guarding a door or turret, even if only for a short time.

Your suggestions are laughable.

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No, it still does. I tried this in Alderaan, the beam is there, it's what alerted the opponents to our presence. Void Star has no beam on planting on the door, this is the real problem.
I have seen it done - it produces no beam. Not when I tested doing it with a Smuggler friend, and not in the countless times people have done it against me.

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Shammus
01.15.2012 , 10:29 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Caliban_Thule View Post
As a maurader, name me a skill that I can use to cover a door from stealthers.
I haven't played a marauder so I can't tell you

I can tell you as a BH I don't have a true interrupt. so if bosses are immune to stun or cc there is no way for me to interrupt anything

The point is in these warzones you have a team, the team has to function together as a team to win, if it isn't a marauder could have all the stealth detection in the world and its not going to make a difference.

Plus both having the ability to detect stealth and go into stealth would be overpowered wouldn't you think?

Quote: Originally Posted by EternalFinality View Post
Actually, in Voidstar and in Alderaan, you very often are the only person guarding a door or turret, even if only for a short time.

Your suggestions are laughable.



I have seen it done - it produces no beam. Not when I tested doing it with a Smuggler friend, and not in the countless times people have done it against me.


classes with no way to aoe or detect stealth have no business guarding doors
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TorqueoMilitaris
01.15.2012 , 11:00 PM | #64
most of classes has advantages to others in warzones. For example leap up on the ramps to the target in huttball, or forcerun, or AoE knocks, which trows everyone away back down to the floor, so stop crying. In void, if a stealther can plant the bomb, you doing something wrong, because what you have to do there? Nothing else but defend the doors. Group stealth ability is useable only out of combat, only out of stealth and makes you and your mates invis only for 15sec. If they can match all of the above requirements, again you doing something wrong, because they have to be close enough to the door, without combat without stealth to use it
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beyou
01.16.2012 , 12:07 AM | #65
You people do realise you just have to stand right next to the stealther to spot him?
He cant do anything against becoming visible to you if stay right on top of the doorr.

1 team is able to get 2 stealthers to the door, pop out of stealth, Start the plant, plant, and coordinate again to go back into stealth.
At the same time they can coordinate enough to move every non stealth player to the other door and create a diversion and no one is messing it up by running to the other door..

The other team is not able to have one player, hell it can be the useless level 10, stand near the bombspot and have a look on his screen every 4 seconds.


Guess what team deserves the win.....

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Daex
01.16.2012 , 12:17 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Whats stopping you from AoEing the doors? You guys seem quick enough to do so even on single targets so why not do it to protect your doors from a smuggled ninjaplant team?

Some people will cry about anything...
Some people will defend everything.. even if it's completely ridiculous. Person planting the bomb should be visible at all times. And also not every class has spammable aoe so arguments claiming that strategy is a solution are bit wrong as well. (Although it's handy to AoE the objective place simply to uncover any stealthers, no doubt, it shouldn't have to be used all the time simply to prevent the objective from being capped).

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Ivas
01.16.2012 , 12:26 AM | #67
Bioware should fix this. I'm running out of bar space because the UI is a sad joke. If they'd just remove the one scenario in which this ability is actually useful, I could just take it off my bar and save some valuable real estate.

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ChrisJSY
01.16.2012 , 08:59 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Jamber View Post
That's it, right there. That's the mentality losing you (and me) and everyone games. "I don't know you, so I'm not gonna trust you, I'm gonna kill some guys I feel are important." And then complain when others couldn't read your mind.

This thread isn't about a mechanic that is bound to be changed in the future, this is about Bio-ware's (or at least a GM's) response to a popular topic as of late. They (he) said it's not an exploit. Sure, it's bound to feel dirty to those who don't know about it or how to counter it, but use this time to reflect on their actions, and tailor yours to hinder theirs. This this is the essence of group pvp.
Honestly, I think this is a case of the GM not understanding the question.
Which isn't anything new, if past post of peoples experiences and/or the seperate issues with customer support, which this seems to be

If you read the nuances in the question and answers, he think we're asking if it's okay to stealth up to the bomb. Despite copy pasting the question clearly stating, "Cloaking team mates when planting a bomb". When. Specifics and elaborations make wonders of a language.

Lastly I ask you, have you seen the range of on a solo stealther when they use their +15 level stealth effect? (Aka, stealthed at level 65). Go test it, get someone to slowly walk up to you with it activate and show me the range you can see them at.

Because I have a feeling you don't know.
As much as people don't realise you can backstab at about 40 degress from the sides to the front.

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Sevvy
01.16.2012 , 09:03 AM | #69
Haha I thought this was an exploit, so I wasn't doing it. TIME TO USE THE **** OUT OF IT!
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EternalFinality
01.16.2012 , 01:40 PM | #70
Did you read my post on page 4? Bioware seems inconsistent on whether they actually agree.