Stop complaining about EXPERTISE

If there's no progression and people just "play for fun", why are you paying $15 a month for this game? There's tons of other class-based games out there where there is no gear for you to enjoy and they don't require a monthly.

No, this is not an e-sport. Get over it.

I don't see a problem with expertise. It's fine, let lvl 50 people have it.

Also: lvl 50 players that faceroll you, don't just do that cause of expertise, they also do that cause they know how to play their class.

no

/5cha

Time grinding vs pieces of gear on this game is non-existent, you can grind 2 weeks straight and get nothing vs someone doing weekly/daily in a day (both warzones and Ilum) and buying a few bags (2) and getting 10 pieces, one on each bag. Your argument is invalid with the current system.

I do not assume to much at all. Your reading comprehension skills are... sub-par.

People in PvE gear would not dominate anyone or anything in the system I'm promoting, everyone would be equal gear wise in PvP zones/warzones.

I make no assumptions at all in anyway about people wanting to do nothing but PvP vs. people who do only PvE or people who do some of each.

You make a very flawed assumption however in assuming that people on PvP servers are any more or less likely to want to PvP only. Some top WoW PvE guilds play on PvP servers. Blood Legion for example plays on Illidan, a very high pop PvP server.

Your entire point is sad and pathetic really. You think that because some people spend more time PvEing they should be at a gear disadvantage in PvP. Your only reasoning is because PvPers spend more time PvPing? Really? So because you spend more time doing PvP you deserve to auto-win vs people who do not? And you actually think that's rational or logical?

The GW2 system of having everyone equal gear wise when they go to PvP makes far more sense. PvP is SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SKILL. Not gear. Why is that point so hard for some of you to comprehend?

Also, while you're talking about assuming to much (which is really *********** hilarious and ironic), I'm currently leveling my second character in PvP only and have spent a great many hours in warzones on said character.

Edit: And PS, the only people crying are the ones who are scared of an equal/fair fight. God forbid you not be able to walk into a warzone and 2 shot people.

Because there is absolutely 100% no reason it should be there. Using your logic, 2 even players going head to head, SHOULD match up without expertise, right? So what's the point of expertise again?

Speaking from experience, Trion made a HUGE mistake with Valor, and they admit it. Now they are stuck with it, and have really tried to get around it. It shouldn't have been in there in the first place. Only bads need 'special' stats to compete in pvp games, they weren't needed in all of the MMO history,but apparently they are needed now? Makes no sense at all.

Gear grind is only needed if you have ADD.. All previous GOOD pvp mmos in history had no gear grind at all in fact. You are a bad spoiled pvper if you need constant 'grinds' to keep you fighting. Shadowbane, UO, Neocron, Meridian59, and more - NONE of them had a gear grind for pvp yet survived for a long time without it.

Only kiddies want more and more gear, not real pvpers.

Actually you are wrong on one point. Expertise is there too keep PvE gear out of PvP, not the other way around.

A system that awards the one who plays the most is 10 times better than a ranking system, when the balance of the pvp and the current bugs in this game ruin any sort of fair competition.

Skill decides like 0,5% of the outcome of a game. Unless you dont face a complete moron who spam casts (force lightning for instance) over and over again while being killed skill is really really irrelevant in the mathematical formula that decides who wins and who loses.


Therefore its pretty unfair to base the whole gearing system on "skill", that is as long as you can't provide a system in which "skill" really is the one thing that leads to the outcome of a fight.... In TOR "skill" does not do such a thing

That sounds exactly like someone with no skill and plenty of free time in their life would say.

TO KEEP PVP GEAR OUT OF PVE. Did you even read past the first sentence of my post? You have made no logical argument whatsoever as Expertise is no more "special" than every other stat which gives you an advantage in PvP (all of them).

Most of the games you are listing are ancient and outdated or I have never heard of them so they can't have been that successful. Times have changed dude. Every recent MMO has had a PvP stat to keep PvP gear away from PvE. WoW had Resilience as its PvP stat and that is the most successful and popular PvP MMO to date.