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3 big problems with SWTOR


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brokentelevision
01.15.2012 , 07:55 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Papazooki View Post
It's either linear or not, face the facts:

in that other MMO, you have choices where you want to quest (for the most part), in SWTOR.. you do not.
Yup this game is linear as hell, I thought Rift was bad in it's linearness, but at least they had options after 30. Multiple high level zones and such.


Rift is really really bad linear. Like do a bounty hunter and try to play an IA after that and it feels almost exactly the same. There isn't any options on where to go, what to do. It doesn't feel very open world.


Oh well, I feel like playing something in "that other mmo that isn't linear at all and is relatively bug free"

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Dee-Jay
01.15.2012 , 07:55 PM | #72
Ability delay and performance related issues are a given. Those are problems and should be dealt with ASAP.

I disagree on the lack of endgame content. There are daily quests, raids, and hardmode flashpoints. Honestly, for a classic MMO, that's quite a lot.

I agree that some planets are too big (like Hoth), yet others are too small (Tython). Imo there are a couple on general problems with the way the built the zones.

1. There are too many planets, clustering players all over the place. Less planets with more content and detail would have been better for everyone.

2. Planets are built as levels, not as zones or worlds. You can't explore them freely. Instead you're channeled into pre-defined paths most of the time. When not, there's simply large amounts of nothing.

Every zone in WoW has 10-times more love, detail and attention put into it than any planet in SWTOR.

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BobTheTeepo
01.15.2012 , 07:57 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Papazooki View Post
end game =/= only raiding.
End game also included crafting, getting the best equipment, and PvP.
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MrTijger
01.15.2012 , 07:58 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Papazooki View Post
end game =/= only raiding.
No.

Btw, why do you keep posting here, do you really need to be validated in your choices this badly?

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Jswizzle
01.15.2012 , 08:00 PM | #75
Some of the design choices I did wonder about. Correllia feels pretty linear, but I would in no way say there wasn't level of detail. The rail system there is really cool. The level designer hit a home run with that, but left the rest of the level feel boxed in.

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Papazooki
01.15.2012 , 08:02 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by MrTijger View Post
No.

Btw, why do you keep posting here, do you really need to be validated in your choices this badly?
No? Are you saying end game is only raiding?
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mcfabulous
01.15.2012 , 08:03 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by brokentelevision View Post
The issue is it won't get fixed at all, it's not a matter of it's only a month old.

Back in beta when it was 6 months pre launch, many testers were giving very important feedback about game breaking issues. Several if not most of those made it all the way to launch.


Bioware has a long track record with this game of being very secretive and not listening to anyone but the share holders. They won't give you any real info about things to come, or tell you what they're working on. Or even acknowledge things. Hell players knew about ability delay almost a year ago and we're just now getting an acknowledgment about it's existence from Bioware.

Bioware is running and designing this game like one of their other single player games, and it'll keep failing until they pull their head outta their rear and start running this like an MMO.
people seem to think that beta = 1-2 months pre-release and with such assumptions they tend to then think you're being an arse for being impatient.

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Folgrin
01.15.2012 , 08:03 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernaliss View Post
Only one I disagree with is overly large planets. They need to be bigger. I am on a PLANET, not some random meteorite. I want the population to feel insignificant compared to the size of the worlds that BioWare creates for us.
Yep this says it all. I want the planets to be huge. Hoth and Tatooine are perfect examples of what I would call good scale. But perhaps faster mounts at end game. 110% just doesn't seem fast enough to cover the ground you've already been through. I for one would like to see epic mounts at 130% at least. But I agree with everything else OP has stated otherwise.
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Papazooki
01.15.2012 , 08:04 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by princey View Post
And they both are linear. That's what happens with a theme park MMO. Face facts.
I wasn't aware I didn't have choices where to quest in that other mmo

This is what makes that other MMO have better replay value for leveling alts. The stories are vastly different in each zone. A good chunk of quests are grindy, but this doesn't differ in SWTOR.

At the end of the day , I'll take a non-linear somewhat grind, over a linear grind.
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BobTheTeepo
01.15.2012 , 08:07 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Papazooki View Post
I wasn't aware I didn't have choices where to quest in that other mmo

This is what makes that other MMO have better replay value for leveling alts. The stories are vastly different in each zone. A good chunk of quests are grindy, but this doesn't differ in SWTOR.

At the end of the day , I'll take a non-linear somewhat grind, over a linear grind.
I think expecting them to do any different is a little bit too much to ask. How would you accomplish this? And do you realize how much it would take to make it that way in a game focused on VOs? Honestly, your wants are a bit unrealistic given the circumstances. I want to fly around the world with wings, but my circumstances do not permit that.
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