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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Tikreity
01.15.2012 , 05:12 AM | #861
Quote: Originally Posted by Munx View Post
He can trinket it all he wants, biowares funky *** resolve system wont give you enough resolve for immunity until u've been stunned twice, despite the insane duration of the agents stuns.

PS: This is even worse in Huttball, when the agent can simply use vent to escape when he done his deed.

Zetara, well then its not a burst class it is now? that is sustained damage.
when we "shoot-first" which is a 3 sec stun ONLY it give you A FULL FREAKN RESOLVE BAR.... why?

so yeah if anything need fix is that our 3 sec stun SHOULD NOT GIVE YOU A FULL RESOLVE BAR.
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Icecrypt
01.15.2012 , 05:12 AM | #862
Quote: Originally Posted by Munx View Post
He can trinket it all he wants, biowares funky *** resolve system wont give you enough resolve for immunity until u've been stunned twice, despite the insane duration of the agents stuns.

PS: This is even worse in Huttball, when the agent can simply use vent to escape when he done his deed.

Zetara, well then its not a burst class it is now? that is sustained damage.
im an operative and i can say i NEVER get in 2 stuns because of resolve, so either there are ops out there that knows how to bugg it to get 2 stuns in or im just very unlucky in not getting this bug.
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Crujido
01.15.2012 , 05:13 AM | #863
Quote: Originally Posted by Icecrypt View Post
im an operative and i can say i NEVER get in 2 stuns because of resolve, so either there are ops out there that knows how to bugg it to get 2 stuns in or im just very unlucky in not getting this bug.

Do the knockdown stun that lasts for "2" seconds but yet you can't do anything for 6.

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Guinden
01.15.2012 , 05:19 AM | #864
I actually can't believe that there are scoundrels and operatives who feel that a single skill (yeah activating flechette round just before shoot first i count these two one :P) so that stuns, applies a huge dot, hits like a truck,and also gives an armor penetration buff for 15 sec is perfectly normal :P

I stopped leveling my scoundrel at the moment, becouse it's just not fun, it's a bloody easymode class once you reach lvl40..

Seriously increase flechette round CD so we can't spam it, increase its cost dramatically or both , or separate all those abilities mentioned before to other ones.

its just way to ridiculously op at the moment, that's the truth.

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Nightsorrow
01.15.2012 , 05:19 AM | #865
Quote: Originally Posted by aarowill View Post
Wait so the whole point of this thread is:

Scoundrels are squishy as **** so I can kill em easy if the fight starts with them unstealthed.

But if they stealth up to me and CC then they can kill me.

I dont want them to ever kill me, nerf them please.





....really?
This is one of the more or less inherent problems with a stealth class. If they have stealth, they rip you apart. If they are not stealthed, they die. Usually.

Stealth classes do not belong in an MMO...

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RallyXtreme
01.15.2012 , 05:58 AM | #866
From what I've noticed all of the people who play Operatives/Scoundrels are the ones who respond with "Stop QQing", which is hilarious. They are a very OP class at the moment, and they do need a nerf. They don't need to be broken to bits, but pvp in general needs a big fix and balance. Those who don't want that , again, are most of those who play those classes. Interesting. If this does happen, I'm sure you all will be competent enough to find other ways of killing people without relaying upon dropping people in 2 seconds.

As for stealth classes not belonging in MMOs, I don't know about that. Republic/Sith Shadows make sense, their basically the rogues of the game. However I do not agree that Operatives AND Sentinels (I believe I have seen them vanish in pvp) should also get stealth. 3 out of the 4 classes can stealth? Pretty dumb on Bioware's part.

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TheHauntingBard
01.15.2012 , 06:20 AM | #867
The only way I can counter an operative is with in a group fight.
If some one peals them off me.

If I get stunned as healer or DPS with out trinket up I'm dead.
Even in group fights where I keep ranged they will pretty much take 10k out of me.
Moment that happened the fight actually 'starts'


With trinkets it becomes another story, as healer I can't keep up vs a good one so I just need to get away.
As DPS well they still pretty much wreck me as a sorcerer so you rather not fight them one on one.


Their weakness is not having cooldowns up but that goes for a lot of classes.
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FourTwent
01.15.2012 , 06:29 AM | #868
Quote: Originally Posted by RallyXtreme View Post
As for stealth classes not belonging in MMOs, I don't know about that. Republic/Sith Shadows make sense, their basically the rogues of the game. However I do not agree that Operatives AND Sentinels (I believe I have seen them vanish in pvp) should also get stealth. 3 out of the 4 classes can stealth? Pretty dumb on Bioware's part.
As a Sentinel(so Marauders too) we get a very short duration stealth(4 seconds I believe) and can be talented to give 50/100% dmg reduction during the duration. I use it like a defensive ability like saber ward. 50% of the time I sneak away, 50% of the time I keep attacking and break the stealth instantly.

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Chomag
01.15.2012 , 06:32 AM | #869
Wait, so what are you saying ?!? Melee stealth classes are ridiculously OP ?!?

Damn, I would have thought that after wow, warhammer, aion and rift, people would have gotten the memo by now.
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Raxwars
01.15.2012 , 06:33 AM | #870
Quote: Originally Posted by Chomag View Post
Wait, so what are you saying ?!? Melee stealth classes are ridiculously OP ?!?

Damn, I would have thought that after wow, warhammer, aion and rift, people would have gotten the memo by now.
Only operatives/scoundrels tough. i Don't feel Marauder/Assasins are OP classes, They are good when well played, but the burst damage isn't even near compared with Operatives/scoundrels.