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Ignorance about Sorc OP'ness

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Ignorance about Sorc OP'ness

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maesesami
01.15.2012 , 05:40 AM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
They have a damage reduction bubble every 20 seconds.
I wanted to say change that 20 sec bubble by a 2 min cd 25% damage reduction buble.

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SandTrout
01.15.2012 , 05:40 AM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by Crujido View Post
Snipers are the anti-healer/tank.
Operatives fall under the same catergory.
They are the only class that actually makes me either heal myself or run away.
Now I'm not so versed in gunslinger, but from my guildies who play gunslinger they say its perfectly fine.
And again with dps sage/sorc, you don't ever use your heals. You heal based on stims, force in balance and your force armor. You will top damage but you'll only get good healing if the team your versing is just absolute garbage.
Snipers and gunslingers are usable, but look at the numbers.

Someone is not where they should be, unless sorcs/sages are actually doing less damage than snipers, which we are not entirely certain of, one way or another due to the lack of combat logs.
Nerf not, lest ye be nerfed.

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KorwinOfAmber
01.15.2012 , 05:46 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by maesesami View Post
I wanted to say change that 20 sec bubble by a 2 min cd 25% damage reduction buble.
I still wonder, are all of you guys idiots?

Sorcs "buble" is a team cast - its applicable on everyone in team. Healing sorc would keep it on all team mates at all times, while damage sorc would at least cast it on one-two more persons. Everyone benefits from the shield, YOU benefit from the shield. If you have sorc in team and he doesnt cast shield on you, blame him - not the class.

Idiots. Cant find other word.

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SandTrout
01.15.2012 , 05:46 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Jestunhi View Post
I'm sure that everyone who plays a Sorc thinks they are UP.

People always do, it's everyone else that is OP.
I have real numbers that say Sorcs are OP relative to Snipers. That might just mean that snipers are UP. it might mean that sorcs/sages are slightly OP and snipers/gunslinger are slightly UP.

Regardless, the numbers show an imbalance.
Nerf not, lest ye be nerfed.

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Crujido
01.15.2012 , 05:47 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
Snipers and gunslingers are usable, but look at the numbers.

Someone is not where they should be, unless sorcs/sages are actually doing less damage than snipers, which we are not entirely certain of, one way or another due to the lack of combat logs.

Now although I haven't ran a healer sniper/guns, but like I said, a sorc/sage will only pull the high dps AND healing when the other team is absolutely terrible.

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SandTrout
01.15.2012 , 05:48 AM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by KorwinOfAmber View Post
I still wonder, are all of you guys idiots?

Sorcs "buble" is a team cast - its applicable on everyone in team. Healing sorc would keep it on all team mates at all times, while damage sorc would at least cast it on one-two more persons. Everyone benefits from the shield, YOU benefit from the shield. If you have sorc in team and he doesnt cast shield on you, blame him - not the class.

Idiots. Cant find other word.
You realize that this just reinforces the point that snipers are clearly less useful and less powerful than sorcs, right?
Nerf not, lest ye be nerfed.

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maesesami
01.15.2012 , 05:48 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by KorwinOfAmber View Post
I still wonder, are all of you guys idiots?

Sorcs "buble" is a team cast - its applicable on everyone in team. Healing sorc would keep it on all team mates at all times, while damage sorc would at least cast it on one-two more persons. Everyone benefits from the shield, YOU benefit from the shield. If you have sorc in team and he doesnt cast shield on you, blame him - not the class.

Idiots. Cant find other word.
Even more op...
And try stay polite.

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KorwinOfAmber
01.15.2012 , 05:49 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by SandTrout View Post
You realize that this just reinforces the point that snipers are clearly less useful and less powerful than sorcs, right?
You realize that sniper backad up by sorc is a monster? Sorc can never do and kill enemies as quickly as uninterupted sniper can do, and sniper with sorc shield and healing is a killing machine.

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Crujido
01.15.2012 , 05:50 AM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by KorwinOfAmber View Post
You realize that sniper backad up by sorc is a monster? Sorc can never do and kill enemies as quickly as uninterupted sniper can do, and sniper with sorc shield and healing is a killing machine.
This.
Except I would choose a jugg/sorc combo instead.

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Malstrades
01.15.2012 , 05:51 AM | #160
to improve on PVP:

-completely remove expertise, its a useless stat and frankly we didnt ask for some dumb resilience type mechanic, we came here to get away from it.

-nerf sorcs, rediculously OP


doing this will vastly improve PVP