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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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antiviolence
01.15.2012 , 02:43 AM | #841
Read my signature. These are the kind of people who want the nerf. Baseless. Just come on the forums and start rambling just to get what they want. Pfft.
Quote: Originally Posted by atreyuz View Post
oooh the classic 31/31/31 spec.

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Kshahdoo
01.15.2012 , 02:55 AM | #842
Tried today one scoundrel with my assassin on void. I got 17550 hp, 547 expertise, and 3k armor... There were 4 fights in less than 2 mins (so you can't say he burned all his cd, biochem and any crap). It took him 4-5 hits to finish me mostly. No chances. Even when I opened first. I bet he was bored as hell to kill my full champion assassin...

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BadAsylum
01.15.2012 , 03:37 AM | #843
I noticed something today about 50% of my Guild is now leveling Operatives, I see a trend starting. I guess if you cant beat em you can join them.

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Kshahdoo
01.15.2012 , 03:40 AM | #844
Quote: Originally Posted by BadAsylum View Post
I noticed something today about 50% of my Guild is now leveling Operatives, I see a trend starting. I guess if you cant beat em you can join them.
Hehe, they will be nerfed before people get to 50 lvl. There will be a lot of rage about it and QQ posts... Or they won't be nerfed, and SWTOR will become Star Wars: The Operative Republic...

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Raxwars
01.15.2012 , 03:45 AM | #845
Indeed, operatives/scoundrels are the most overpowered class at the moment. Their damage seems to be out of proportion.

I done about 10 warzones yesterday, and whenever a well geared operative/scoundrel was present, we would basicly win the game, they end up normally with 300k-500k damage.. (LOL).

I'm a sith assassin, i can normally win against others classes 1vs1, i say about 50% or more of times.

However against an operative, with similar or better gear than me, i rather just run away or ignore the guy, he can kill me in about 4/5 seconds it's not worth it. And oh, unbreakable will has 1.5/2 mins COOLDOWN, so you can't really count on it, cause it won't be available most of times.

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Damedius
01.15.2012 , 03:53 AM | #846
Quote: Originally Posted by Raxwars View Post
Indeed, operatives/scoundrels are the most overpowered class at the moment. Their damage seems to be out of proportion.

I done about 10 warzones yesterday, and whenever a well geared operative/scoundrel was present, we would basicly win the game, they end up normally with 300k-500k damage.. (LOL).

I'm a sith assassin, i can normally win against others classes 1vs1, i say about 50% or more of times.

However against an operative, with similar or better gear than me, i rather just run away or ignore the guy, he can kill me in about 4/5 seconds it's not worth it. And oh, unbreakable will has 1.5/2 mins COOLDOWN, so you can't really count on it, cause it won't be available most of times.
I call BS on your numbers.

Operatives are usually around 250-350k for a really good one.

Snipers can push 400k.

The only ones coming near or even breaking 500k are Sorcs.

I have never seen an Operative break 400k in a match and I have 60 Valor. (Which means I have played far too many Hutball Games.)

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Raxwars
01.15.2012 , 03:56 AM | #847
Quote: Originally Posted by Damedius View Post
I call BS on your numbers.

Operatives are usually around 250-350k for a really good one.

Snipers can push 400k.

The only ones coming near or even breaking 500k are Sorcs.

I have never seen an Operative break 400k in a match and I have 60 Valor. (Which means I have played far too many Hutball Games.)
Well, i didn't took a screenshot, but in one of the games there was an Operative with 480k damage, and guess what.... 0 Deaths. This was the strongest one i saw, in other games, they were normally around 300k+.

I'm not lying, in my server Legions of Lettow, there are some really powerful Scoundrels/Operatives.

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FourTwent
01.15.2012 , 04:03 AM | #848
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So if we claim every class is OP'd does that mean they are actually balanced? Another week or two and we should have gone through why every class is OP'd
this needs to happen before the balancing starts. if not its going to snowball from one class being OP to another. causing nerf after nerf after nerf

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sprasz
01.15.2012 , 04:06 AM | #849
Quote: Originally Posted by Bandelederen View Post
So me and another level 50 runs op to cap this point in the Alderaan warzone. Out of nowhere this scoundrel opens up and obliterates the other lvl 50 before I can even react. He then vanishes and opens up on me with a stun.

At this point im thinking surely he cannot do the same thing to me, he just did to the other guy 8 seconds ago. Boy was I wrong.

STUN
4.7k
3.8k
3.0k
STUN OVER

At this point I have about 10% of my hp left and the fight is over. He just creamed the both of us in less than 20 seconds and hes still got 90% hp left.


And tbh this is not the only time I've witnessed these scenarios with scoundrels completely destroying people in a single stun. This needs to be addressed immediatly.

Those numbers are only if your not a sorc./or jedi coun. else its 30 % higher at least.

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FourTwent
01.15.2012 , 04:06 AM | #850
Quote: Originally Posted by BadAsylum View Post
I noticed something today about 50% of my Guild is now leveling Operatives, I see a trend starting. I guess if you cant beat em you can join them.
There were more republicans on Ord Mandel lvling up Scoundrels the other day than on any other planet(republican side) excluding the fleet. I mean its not like it takes months to reach cap. Warzones will be interesting in a couple weeks full of flavor of the month classes.

bioware will probably see this surge in their metrics and commence with the nerfs