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This game badly needs mods and macros.


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Manchuwook
01.14.2012 , 11:50 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by Mineria View Post
Chaining up abilities x-y in a macro and setting my keyboard to autospam that key will sequence a rotation as far as I'm aware of.
It can not be blocked in the API unless you only allow 1 skill pr. macro, since it works directly with the keyboard driver.
I can even go to the toilet in the middle of an boss encounter without anyone noticing it, my dps would still be top.
If you honestly think that this will work in all situations, you are going to be in a world of hurt. You will either do such good dps that you will snatch aggro from the tank, come back from pooping to find your character dead with alot of pissed off guildies in vent. Or you come back and find yourself dead because you stood in the fire. Or the entire party wiped because you didn't switch to the adds that you were supposed to be killing.

This theoretical situation is not going to be the norm, so please don't try to jump to such conclusions merely because you think people can "bot" raids. No one can top out their dps while nomming popcorn and smacking their keyboard with a ruler.

Even if people could bot with macros, you'd be hocking some website that sells credits for real cash and get banned for it.
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GalacticKegger
01.14.2012 , 12:57 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by CharagonIGN View Post
In the end, Mods aren't about making the game easier. They're about making the game yours. My WoW UI gives me the functions I want and the information I want. It's painstakingly customzied to fit my needs.

Until SWTOR can let me do the same it's just a game, not MY game.
Is that your default WoW UI or your Bartender/Dominos UI? Dev has already published in their blog as well as these forums that allowing UI customization is a top priority once other more pressing issues are resolved. I would recommend the forum search function except there isn't one yet. So here's the blog:

http://www.swtor.com/news/blog/20111213-0

Cheers!
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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HeatherRae
01.14.2012 , 09:47 PM | #163
This is my UI:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6...c77069f4_b.jpg

It has everything exactly as I want it to be. To me, it's visually attractive. I can easily see the CDs that I need, and the visible bars hold everything I need to have access to at a moment's notice. You may notice that everything is basically under my character's feet, including the raid frames. This is very important to me, as a healer, to help me with movement, and knowing when I'm standing in fire.

I can't achieve anything close to this with the current SWTOR UI. And as a poster above said, that makes it a game - but it's not my game. It's not my UI. It's a clunky thing that I have to work around to function. That isn't fun for me.

Maybe that makes me bad. All I know is that I have a better, less stressful time when I can set my UI up the way I want it, with addons that make my UI look prettier and make healing more intuitive to me.

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Kurnea
01.14.2012 , 09:55 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Actually mod support is so integral to WoW that if addons were taken away there'd be rioting and its end game would implode. Not sure that's a good state to be in.
Take a feature you like in TOR, say storyline or pvp or operations. Now get rid of it after the playerbase has enjoyed it for a period of several years. Chances are, there would be rioting, and the playerbase would complain.

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Johnnytc
01.14.2012 , 10:03 PM | #165
For everyone who thinks a game doesnt need mods, is very seriously mistaken

How do you know if the person if your group is pulling less dps then a lvl 45? How do you know your doing enough dps..

For me, mods are the most important feature of a game, as it lets you see how the group is going to work, who needs to be kicked, cuz lets face it... damage meters were made for the reason of weeding the people who dont even know there own class

And yes the UI needs to have more mods, as i hate this UI.. Why is it in every game theres no option for a third center bar, or a fourth center bar.. its always 2 centers and 1 left 1 right.. so tired of that ffs
There is a button infront of you.. If you press it, a random person who you have never met will Die.. But you recieve $1000 every time you push the button.. What do you do?

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Prezendes
01.14.2012 , 10:07 PM | #166
The only real change I would like to see is for the bars. It would be nice to have more then just the one row. In my WOW UI I love Bartender 4. Its a must have for me. I hate having to page through bars.

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GalacticKegger
01.14.2012 , 10:23 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Kurnea View Post
Take a feature you like in TOR, say storyline or pvp or operations. Now get rid of it after the playerbase has enjoyed it for a period of several years. Chances are, there would be rioting, and the playerbase would complain.
The features I like in TOR came built into the game, which is why I purchased it. That's not the case with the other game, as addons were aftermarket enhancements. Hence the term addon, though the game itself has since been designed and patched around them. The games are dissimilar in that regard.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Kurnea
01.14.2012 , 10:31 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
The features I like in TOR came built into the game, which is why I bought it. That's not the case with the other game, as addons were aftermarket enhancements, hence the term addon. Though the game has since been designed around them. The games are dissimilar in that regard.
Not that dissimilar, surely you're aware that Bioware is focused on adding many aftermarket enchancements. For instance, just a few days ago there was a post that new options and tools will come for finding group content. Before, were you suggesting that there's something wrong with the playerbase enjoying or becoming dependent on aftermarket changes? I don't think there's anything wrong with the playerbase becoming accustomed to the changes that the developers bring about.

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Gezzer
01.14.2012 , 10:32 PM | #169
I'm leary of too many mods or a too powerful macro ability.

For example DPS and Heal meters turn raids into a numbers game not just for the players but the developers as well. And powerful macros tend to make a player lazy. I know this for a fact because I had some pretty potent macros in WoW, and when the macro system got nerfed I found it really hard to play without them. Once I did I realized I had more fun with out them.

I think we simply need macros for text related things, and that would be fine. One of my toons is a healer, and though I have learned to type "Get him off me" really really fast it would be nice to be able to bind a key to "Your healer is taking damage, please help him" or something to that effect.
As well I would like the ability to customize the UI a bit. Change sizes and locations on the screen would be nice. I'm about to setup a 3 monitor system and I've heard that the UI sucks a bit for that.

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Twixted
01.14.2012 , 10:40 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
The features I like in TOR came built into the game, which is why I purchased it. That's not the case with the other game, as addons were aftermarket enhancements. Hence the term addon, though the game itself has since been designed and patched around them. The games are dissimilar in that regard.
"aftermarket enhancements" interesting way to put what is really user generated content.

Would you call firefox "aftermarket enhancement?